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Overunity Machines Forum



Is Newton's Law At Risk?

Started by gravityblock, April 11, 2015, 09:50:41 PM

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Is Newton's third law at risk?

Yes, there's a violation of Newton's law in this case!
No, Newton's law is in full effect in this case!
Not sure, I'm undecided ar the moment!

gravityblock

Quote from: webby1 on April 20, 2015, 11:40:50 AM

I would then also guess that you could not place a weight on a bicycle wheel and move its axle back and forth and make the wheel spin,, right??


This comment, along with your previous comments is highly suggestive that you either don't correctly understand Whoopy's replication, and/or you're trying to blatantly mislead the reader.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: webby1 on April 20, 2015, 12:21:51 PM
Why would I do that?  Why would I want to mislead anyone?

I posted the evidence from the video itself that showed there was a load seen by the motor.


Most people will say or do anything not to be wrong or not to make themselves look bad.  It's called pride, and this is one of the many reasons for people to intentionally mislead others. 

You did not post evidence from the video itself that showed a counter torque per Newton's third law on the prime mover or motor itself.  The only thing you showed was that there is kinetic friction and resistance inherent in the system.  I even showed how to eliminate most of this kinetic friction that represents itself as a slight load prior to you posting in this thread.  This slight load you're speaking of isn't evidence of a counter torque from the flywheel to the motor.  This was another blatant attempt by you to mislead the reader.


Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: webby1 on April 20, 2015, 12:21:51 PM
I am also assuming at this point in time that you yourself have not in fact ever tried to make a wheel with a weight on its edge spin by shaking its axle back and forth.

This is another wrong assumption made by you!

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: webby1 on April 20, 2015, 02:00:49 PM
You are showing all of your own pride.

Your suggestion of using the scrollerwheel would stop the driven disc from being turned,, it is the action of the one-way bearing that turns the driven disc.

You can't be serious!  The scrollerwheel would not stop the flywheel if the full reciprocating motion is converted to a rotary motion.  There are many ways to achieve this.  If it wasn't for the one way bearing in Whoopy's replication, then the flywheel would also oscillate back and forth without a net rotation.  In other words, the one way bearing is needed in Whoopy's replication only because the full reciprocating motion isn't being utilized.  Utilize the full reciprocating motion, and the one way bearing will no longer be needed for a net rotation of the flywheel.  Your pride has now fully manifested into stupidity!

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: webby1 on April 20, 2015, 02:00:49 PM

So,, by the way,, since you are insinuating that you have run a few of the basic experiments and can manage to make the wheel spin,, how hard is it to see that the the frame holding the axles for the gears is moving back and forth.

Simple stuff really.

Believe as you wish.

The frame holding the gears do move back and forth, but this back and forth movement in no way causes the gears to rotate around their own axis, and this rotation of the gears around their own axis is needed in order for the gears to have a negative or positive influence on the motor.

It really is simple stuff, and it's sad you're not able to correctly understand it.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.