Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor

[nix85]

And there are Unicorns in our Animal Kingdom...

Point is you are needlessly saying obvious things.

Neutralization is not only about "passing the sticky point"...but also about passing the Repulsion Cogging Point...Should I remind you that Magnetism always has TWO Interactions, and NOT only one?...or just attraction?

Sticky point is a general term in magnet only motors for point where rotation is blocked, due to attraction or repulsion. For example in video i linked, there is a REPELLING "sticky point" or call it "repelling point" if you want to nit pick about useless semantics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovPQ5dMy7GQ

Are you sure Lüling did NOT use pneumatics?...Please see my images sequence below...and still I had to reduce its resolution...as this site will not take 4K UHD.
So, all those aluminum lines, fittings and components are there just "for the looks"...and yes, "skies are blue..."

I don't think he did for a simple reason it is not needed.

When Two magnets are IN REPULSION, face to face, and you get a THICK (not just a lamination) about equivalent to their thickness embodiment, without touching them physically, just SURROUNDING their REPULSE AIR GAP...Repulsion Forces are turned OFF like a "switch"...You no longer feel any COGGING, but a slight Attraction.

Of course you can neutralize the attraction by putting a thick enough piece of iron between two repelling magnets. If there is "slight attraction" or not, again, depends on thickness of the iron, distance from the magnets and their strength.

And this brakes (Turns OFF) Neutralization IN A STABILIZED, NEUTRALIZED SYSTEM, releasing Attract Forces to Max at 180º apart.

You repeat the obvious fact that thick enough piece of iron can neturalize the repulsion of magnets, (not to get into the fact that in this scenario, as rotating magnet leaves, the iron "shield" is now strongly attracted to the remaining magnet and it takes work to move it back to original position so cycle can repeat...). And how does that incorporate into the video, we can see rotor is attracted toward (presumably) stator steel bar, they are not repelling (at least until they come face to face). At the same time you ironically mock the idea of hidden repelling magnets in the steel bar, yet this is apparently exactly what you suggest...

You so far did not express your theory in a clear, non-contradictory way.

This fact does NOT applies to Attraction.

LOL, IMAGINE, iron between attracting magnets does not shield the attraction...WHO WOULD SAY.

That is how Lüling Magnet Motor works.

LOL

Is this too hard to understand?

If you were capable of expressing yourself in intelligent, clear manner, maybe someone would be able to understand what kind of mess you imagined.

I never said "thin steel plate"...that is so obvious!!...a thin plate would not do niente!! ...I said perfectly clear, a Thick, large piece of steel Arc

Now is you considering a thin piece of steel...what?...shunting magnets?...LOL

LOL, first of all, i was just stating the fact that with varying thickness of iron (and distance) can be achieved either partial repulsion, total neutralization of repulsion or attraction (small to big).

So, you are believing that Lüling works based on Steel RAMPS generating the Attraction?...and some "unseen repulse magnets" come out of your blue skies...
And so, maybe Lüling was pushing those "unseen repulse magnets" with his left hand, while motor was running...I mean, we only see his right hand moving the lever...so it could be...

Maybe you need to watch the whole video again, in your big screen TV...but this time  Lüling in 4K UHD...same 1966 video...taken from the original 35mm slides that thanks to Semi, who got them (and PAID $$ for them) from Bundes Archives in Germany...I did all the color balances, Gamma corrections, etc,etc...and put them in a full film...

Also, You may want to see the replication that Manfred Klug (Germany) did on his Lüling Magnetmotor Rep #10 ...and  so, I wonder ¨how come¨, I am not the only one who believes Lüling works on Pneumatics ¿!? ...It is just unfortunate that Klug did not considered Neutralization on his build...as he only uses Magnet to a Steel Rotor Attraction, which is very much weaker than magnet to magnet attraction...
Resulting that Manfred Klug only gets like 30 RPM's...while I reach 415 RPM's... , 
Ufopolitics
Ciao

Stupid sarcasm and emojis aside...

I unlike you, said clearly what i think.

Listening to Luling again he clearly says "the rotating armature will be attracted from (by) the magnetic system". According to these words it sounds like rotor is NOT a magnet but steel attracted to magnets in the stator. If this were true it leaves out the possibility of repulsion and that makes things much harder. If we ignore these words and continue with the assumption that rotor IS a magnet...

We can see it is falling toward what is presumably a steel bar and as it approaches the steel bar, spring releases the steel bar and it comes faces to face with the magnet. As i said before, clearly for rotor to continue spinning this is where neutralization must be ON (not OFF as you say) and only way this attraction can be neutralized is by repelling magnets, presumably in the bottom part of the oscillating steel bar or maybe in the central part positioned in such a way that rotor magnet does not "see" the repulsion until the very moment it comes face to face with the steel bar (and the hidden magnets).

[Ufopolitics]

@Nix85


I am sorry, but I will not keep arguing with you here...I have to keep working on my builds...
But, you have your ideas then why don't you put them all together on a build?...then load your video so we could all see it running.


I already did mine...


Hope you do the same, build it and put all your assumptions in a real build...


It is the best way to know if they work or not.




Take care




Ufopolitics

[citfta]

Hey UFO,


You are wasting your time with this clown.  He is the resident know-it-all that is always putting down what others are doing while he has done NOTHING.  I have been following closely your other thread but not commenting because I don't have anything useful to add and I am certainly not going to criticize someone who is actually building while I am not.


Keep up the great efforts and take care.


Later,
Carroll

[nix85]

I am sorry, but look at your sarcasm and emojis, who's been arguing.

Anyway, it's kinda sad you wasted all this space and time and you never managed to convey clearly, non-contradictory how exactly you imagined it.

Ofc you pulled the i built it you didn't card, but what you built can not even be compared to Luling motor.

BTW i've been building stuff for years and would love to build Luling, but am at the moment focused on solid state stuff. If i had extra funds and time i assure you i would solve this one quickly.

Take care,

Nix

[nix85]

As for this jester, i see he saw little dispute as an excuse to unleash his frustrations cause i exposed his ignorance on another thread. As for his accusation that i am putting others down, i do not, may point out if something is wrong just as commend if it is right, as for "built nothing"...my my, if he only knew.