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Overunity Machines Forum



New reactionless motor from India

Started by pomodoro, August 15, 2015, 07:43:38 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: gravityblock on August 17, 2015, 09:55:08 AM

No, the straw man was your own invention based on a false assertion.  You continue to assert you didn't make an argument that was successfully refuted, without stating and clarifying your original argument and position.  You have done this so you can continue to muddy the waters.


Gravock
LOL.  Anytime you like you are free to actually attempt to show that I ever made the argument you claim.


gravityblock

Quote from: MarkE on August 15, 2015, 08:04:26 AM
That was covered a few months ago on R-G when the article first published.  Of course if the machine were really 250% efficient, self-looping would be no problem.  Yet, they don't do it.  The reasons are painfully obvious:  They measure VA products instead of real power.

Quote from: MarkE on August 15, 2015, 10:53:07 PM
The first question that all these claims fail is:  Given that motors and generators are duals of each other, why does the machine need both?  If both are over unity, then only one is required.  If only one is over unity, then only that device is required.  If neither is overunity (which is the reality), then the claim is false.

The above clearly shows your original argument and position that if a system is OU, then self-looping is no problem.  In other words, if a system isn't able to be self-looped, then it can't be OU and the claim is false.  Your postulate is based on a false assumption that there are no resistant forces introduced to the system that acts against itself when trying to self-loop it.  Thus, your argument is based on a false assumption and is wrong!

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

tinman

@ Gravok & MarkE

You guys are classic
You two are arguing over who started an argument lol.
This is better than the Benny Hill show.

As the weather here is really crappy ATM,and no good for UFO watching,it is always nice to come here for some comical relief ;D

MarkE

Quote from: gravityblock on August 17, 2015, 10:13:40 AM
The above clearly shows your original argument and position that if a system is OU, then self-looping is no problem.  In other words, if a system isn't able to be self-looped, then it can't be OU and the claim is false.  Your postulate is based on a false assumption that there are no resistant forces introduced to the system that acts against itself when trying to self-loop it.  Thus, your argument is based on a false assumption and is wrong!

Gravock
LOL another Gravock fail.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on August 17, 2015, 10:20:22 AM
@ Gravok & MarkE

You guys are classic
You two are arguing over who started an argument lol.
This is better than the Benny Hill show.

As the weather here is really crappy ATM,and no good for UFO watching,it is always nice to come here for some comical relief ;D
The discussion is entirely silly and entirely hilarious.