Rotating Magnetic Field's and Inductors.

[Magluvin]

Yes I did a double-take on that one and realize where I went wrong after having a second look at the geometry of the setup.  Your eight-pole rotor looks like a four-pole rotor.

The real hoot is that you are still leading yourself down a garden path and Luc is along for the ride.  You need to put the pieces of the puzzle together and come up with the right conclusion.

How is it possible that a coil that is driving a rotor can be more efficient than a coil that is not driving a rotor?  Conservation of energy is telling you that that makes no sense at all - it's impossible.  The magnets are not "increasing efficiency" - try figuring it out by assuming for the sake of argument that I am right.

Think about it, you are on a forum for energy research and you are deceiving yourself and convincing yourself one more time that "magnets are a source of energy" or "magnets increase efficiency seemingly out of nowhere."  That's why there are all of these unscrupulous con artists out there because it's such an easy thing to do, it's like taking candy from a baby.  Try to figure it out because right now you are spreading disinformation and making it that much easier for the con artists.

MileHigh

Well, they are showing the differences of I/O with and without the rotor. And the differences seem to be showing what they say.

The magnet of the rotor is definitely playing its part by being involved, whether it is generating while spinning or biasing the coil core. 

So what are 'we' missing if they dont have it right? Where is the problem in seeing that the efficiency of the system seems to get better with the rotor rather than without?

If there is an answer, please put it out there so that the issue that you pose can be accessed. 

Mags

[EMJunkie]

Yes I did a double-take on that one and realize where I went wrong after having a second look at the geometry of the setup.  Your eight-pole rotor looks like a four-pole rotor.

The real hoot is that you are still leading yourself down a garden path and Luc is along for the ride.  You need to put the pieces of the puzzle together and come up with the right conclusion.

How is it possible that a coil that is driving a rotor can be more efficient than a coil that is not driving a rotor?  Conservation of energy is telling you that that makes no sense at all - it's impossible.  The magnets are not "increasing efficiency" - try figuring it out by assuming for the sake of argument that I am right.

Think about it, you are on a forum for energy research and you are deceiving yourself and convincing yourself one more time that "magnets are a source of energy" or "magnets increase efficiency seemingly out of nowhere."  That's why there are all of these unscrupulous con artists out there because it's such an easy thing to do, it's like taking candy from a baby.  Try to figure it out because right now you are spreading disinformation and making it that much easier for the con artists.

MileHigh

MileHigh  - What a Hoot!!!

You have no clue at all How an Electrical Generator Works do you? Hahahahaha

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[EMJunkie]

...and on the scope the V/R limit and the core saturation look like this:

Thanks Verpies!!! Again and as always, excellent information!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[EMJunkie]

I have done another video, Part 2, with a demonstration of how Electrical Energy is "Generated" - Electrical Energy 101 - Faradays Law of Induction - Part 2

References: Spin–charge separation,  Photoinduced charge separation and Lorentz force

Have had a few distractions so please forgive my lack of fluency!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[tinman]

Yes I did a double-take on that one and realize where I went wrong after having a second look at the geometry of the setup.  Your eight-pole rotor looks like a four-pole rotor.

The real hoot is that you are still leading yourself down a garden path and Luc is along for the ride.  You need to put the pieces of the puzzle together and come up with the right conclusion.



That's why there are all of these unscrupulous con artists out there because it's such an easy thing to do, it's like taking candy from a baby.  Try to figure it out because right now you are spreading disinformation and making it that much easier for the con artists.

MileHigh

So far,i(and Luc) are the only ones here that have provided proof that it is indeed the magnets that are increasing the efficiency of the DUT. I have given you the opportunity to put forth your argument,and prove that the magnets are not what is increasing the efficiency of the system. All you have to say is-->i should believe what you say(sounds a bit vain),and yet you provide no counter argument.

If it is not the magnets that are increasing the efficiency MH,then what is it ?.

How is it possible that a coil that is driving a rotor can be more efficient than a coil that is not driving a rotor?  Conservation of energy is telling you that that makes no sense at all - it's impossible.

And yet there it is ,right in front of you--in two video's.

So i ask one last time,put forth your argument,and tell us why it is not the alternating magnetic field that is increasing the efficiency,as i have provided proof to the contrary.

Your eight-pole rotor looks like a four-pole rotor.

Really(see pic below)
And what dose how many poles it has have to do with your question--Quote: I believe that you state in your clip that the rotor has eight magnets alternating north-south-north... facing outwards.  Are you sure about that because your waveforms don't seem to indicate that.

As the frequency has nothing to do with the amount of pole's on the rotor,your question seems to indicate that you did not think the fields were alternating,as the wave form dose not seem to indicate that.

The magnets are not "increasing efficiency" - try figuring it out by assuming for the sake of argument that I am right.

Unfortunately MH,you are not right--both video's clearly show that it is indeed the magnets that increase the efficiency-->as we changed nothing else.

Think about it, you are on a forum for energy research and you are deceiving yourself and convincing yourself one more time that "magnets are a source of energy" or "magnets increase efficiency seemingly out of nowhere."

There is no deception MH,none at all. The conditions of the test were set in both test,and when the rotating magnets were removed,the efficiency went down.
Your dam straight the inductor provided the energy needed to spin the rotor,and that rotor with the magnets in it did indeed increase the efficiency of the electrical P/in to P/out ratio.

We'll see how you go on the next video,but for now,tell us what it was(if not the spinning magnets) that increased the efficiency of the DUT in those test condition's.

Brad