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[TinselKoala]

Here's a lot more evidence for TinMan to deny:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

Here's some information about LROC that you may not have realized, TinMan:

Images taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter mission beginning in July 2009 show the six Apollo Lunar Module descent stages, Apollo Lunar Surface Experiment Package (ALSEP) science experiments, astronaut footpaths, and lunar rover tire tracks. These images are the most effective proof to date to rebut the "landing hoax" theories.^[42][43][44] Although this probe was indeed launched by NASA, the camera and the interpretation of the images are under the control of an academic group — the LROC Science Operations Center at Arizona State University, along with many other academic groups.^[45] At least some of these groups, such as German Aerospace Center, Berlin, are not located in the USA, and are not funded by the US government.^[46]

Of course all these academic groups and even the German Aerospace Center are in on the Hoax, and images from LROC are being doctored every day to keep up the big lie. Aren't they, TinMan? There are secret classrooms full of graduate students at ASU, being paid by NASA, to perpetuate the myth, year after year ..... right. 

And of course the retroreflector ranging data is faked, isn't it, even though anyone with the right equipment can fire a laser at the moon and get the same data back, proving there are man-made objects sitting on the moon.


This strange fixation of yours, TinMan, makes you look pretty silly, I must admit.

[picowatt]

http://www.braeunig.us/apollo/VABraddose.htm

[tinman]

I don't even pretend to be an atomic physicist.  But there are some basic common sense things that probably apply.

The Earth is in orbit around the Sun at a certain radial distance and that represents an "energy state."

No,the earth is not in orbit !around! the sun. The earth follows a helical path behind the sun,as the sun travels through space on it's own helical path along the galactic plane.

Look up the concept if you have to.  An electron is in orbit around the nucleus and that represents an energy state.  Both energy states are constant.  There is no friction in both cases.  So there is no "continuous work" taking place at all.
It does not take work to maintain a magnetic field at all.  You should realize this.  It only takes work to create the magnetic field.

So you are claiming that no work is being done to maintain the electric field that exist along with the motion of the electron?.

I am guessing that you are questioning atomic physics and particle physics without knowing anything about the subject matter.  I know a small amount and am trying to create a reasonable picture.

There is no "endless supply of energy."  For that for sure you are dead wrong.  I think you are arguing from near total ignorance with respect to this subject matter.

So you are saying that Vortex1 is also wrong?.

Where does the work come from?  I can just speculate:  There is attraction between a nucleus and an electron.  If an electron falls into a nucleus from a distance it increases in energy -> that energy becomes the energy state of the electron in orbit.

And how is this energy state maintained?.

As far as the moon trip goes, any mathematician can go up to a blackboard and do the calculations that prove that a big tin can full of rocket fuel can get into orbit and then push a smaller tin can on a trajectory to the moon.  Then an even smaller tin can can land on the moon, and then an even smaller tin can can come back to the Earth.  It is entirely physically possible and can be proven on a blackboard in 15 minutes.  I have read stuff debunking the Van Allen belt radiation claims.  Just like the claims that the shadows in the pictures are all wrong are ridiculous.

So the NASA scientist ,and the NASA astronaut are lying?
I can also prove within 5 minutes that the moon landings are fake,just using the lunar rovers on there own.


Brad

[tinman]

Here's a lot more evidence for TinMan to deny:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

Aren't they, TinMan? There are secret classrooms full of graduate students at ASU, being paid by NASA, to perpetuate the myth, year after year ..... right. 

This strange fixation of yours, TinMan, makes you look pretty silly, I must admit.

Really?.
Lets look at your provided !third party! proof of the moon walkers. And this will be from the link you provided.

And of course the retroreflector ranging data is faked, isn't it, even though anyone with the right equipment can fire a laser at the moon and get the same data back, proving there are man-made objects sitting on the moon.

Quote from your link.
Quote: Strictly speaking, although the reflectors are strong evidence that human-manufactured artifacts currently exist on the Moon, and their locations are consistent with NASA's claims, they do not prove humans have visited the Moon.
Evidence that man went to the moon=0

Here's some information about LROC that you may not have realized, TinMan:
Of course all these academic groups and even the German Aerospace Center are in on the Hoax, and images from LROC are being doctored every day to keep up the big lie.

Where are these nice clear images from the LRO of the equipment left behind on the moon?. -There are none-oh,except for the one below-pic 1. Is this the best you have?.
Evidence that man went to the moon=0

Now for a bit more from your link.
Quote 1-In this section is evidence, by independent researchers, that NASA's account is correct. However, at least somewhere in the investigation, there was some NASA involvement, or use of US government resources.
Lol-NASA and government involvement.
Evidence that man went to the moon=0

2-SELENE photographs[edit]
In 2008, the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) SELENE lunar probe obtained several photographs showing evidence of Moon landings.[1] On the left are two photos taken on the lunar surface by the Apollo 15 astronauts August 2, 1971 during EVA 3 at station 9A near Hadley Rille. On the right is a 2008 reconstruction from images taken by the SELENE terrain camera and 3D projected to the same vantage point as the surface photos. The terrain is a close match within the SELENE camera resolution of 10 metres.

With a resolution of 10 meters
Where is the lunar rover in the picture taken from SELENE ?,or even the ruddy great rock next to the rover in the original apollo pictures?
Pictures 2 and 3 are the original pictures !apparently! taken on the apollo 15 mission. Picture 4 is from the SELENE -->that has a resolution of 10 meters
Evidence that man went to the moon=0

3-The light-coloured area of blown lunar surface dust created by the lunar module engine blast at the Apollo 15 landing site was photographed and confirmed by comparative analysis of photographs in May 2008. They correspond well to photographs taken from the Apollo 15 Command/Service Module showing a change in surface reflectivity due to the plume.

What engine blast--what plume of dust?.
Show me one original video that shows any sort of blast crater under the lunar lander module.
If this plume of dust that is suppose to exist,or was created,covered the ground so as to change surface reflectivity,then why isnt there any of this dust from this plume on the lander foot pad's?. The foot pad's(which are bowl/dish shaped) would have caught some of this dust from the plume. But no-nothing to be seen in any photo showing the foot pad's in any of the apollo missions.
Evidence that man went to the moon=0

4-Chandrayaan-1[edit]
As with SELENE, the Terrain Mapping Camera of India's Chandrayaan-1 probe did not have enough resolution to record Apollo hardware.
Evidence that man went to the moon=0

5-Chang'e 2[edit]
China's second lunar probe, Chang'e 2, which was launched in 2010 is capable of capturing lunar surface images with a resolution of up to 1.3 metres. It claims to have spotted traces of the Apollo landings, though the relevant imagery has not been publicly identified
Lol-aint that a hoot
Evidence that man went to the moon=0

6-Kettering Grammar School[edit]
A group at Kettering Grammar School, using simple radio equipment, monitored Soviet and U.S. spacecraft and calculated their !!orbits!!.[10][11] In 1972 a member of the group "picks up Apollo 17 on its way to the Moon
Evidence that man went to the moon=0

7-This event can be traced with the Apollo 8 Flight Journal, noting that launch was at 0751 EST or 12:51 UT on December 21
Dr. Michael Moutsoulas at Pic du Midi Observatory reported an initial sighting around 17:10(4 hours and 19 minutes after lift off) UT on December 21 with the 1.1-metre reflector as an object (magnitude near 10, through clouds) moving eastward near the predicted location of Apollo 8
!!Now TK,as you are a bit of an amateur Astronomer,tell us how well you could spot or track an object that small,traveling at the speed that the apollo space craft was travelling at,and through cloud's at that ?.!!

Justus Dunlap and others at Corralitos Observatory (then operated by Northwestern University) obtained over 400 short-exposure intensified images, giving very accurate locations for the spacecraft

The 2.1m Otto Struve Telescope at McDonald Observatory, from 01:50–2:37 UT on December 23, observed the brightest object flashing as bright as magnitude 15, with the flash pattern recurring about once a minute

The Lick Observatory observations during the return coast to Earth produced live television pictures broadcast to United States west coast viewers via KQED-TV in San Francisco.

At Jodrell Bank Observatory in the UK, the telescope was used to observe the mission, as it was used years previously for Sputnik.[16] At the same time, Jodrell Bank scientists were tracking the unmanned Soviet spacecraft Luna 15, which was trying to land on the Moon.[17] In July 2009, Jodrell released some recordings they made

Rachel, Chabot Observatory's 20-inch refracting telescope, helps bring Apollo 13 and its crew home. One last burn of the lunar lander engines was needed before the crippled spacecraft's re-entry into the Earth's

Apollo 14[edit]
Main article: Apollo 14
Corralitos Observatory photographed Apollo 14<--thats great

Apollo 16[edit]
Main article: Apollo 16
Jewett Observatory at Washington State University reported sightings of Apollo 16.[6]

At least two different radio amateurs, W4HHK and K2RIW, reported reception of Apollo 16 signals with home-built equipment

Apollo 17[edit]
Main article: Apollo 17
Sven Grahn describes several amateur sightings of Apollo 17<--Where?.

And the list go's on and on.
Total evidence that man went to the moon from the provided link by TK=0

I have no problem believing that they could have been in earth orbit at that time in history,and i have no problem believing that we could have sent a craft to the moon, But man never went,because they just could not,and still cannot today-as has been described by NASA engineers and astronauts them self.

So i see no evidence what so ever in the link you provided TK,that proves man went to the moon.
In fact,most of what is described on that page is comical.

I think that page TK is making you look pretty silly if you think there is any proof what so ever provided in that link that proves man went to the moon.

Brad

P.S
I have to add this TK.
If some one provided this kind of !!so called!! evidence to back up a claim of an overunity device,you would laugh in there face.

[tinman]

@ TK and MH

TK,this is a picture from that link you posted that was suppose to show proof-or third party proof that man did walk on the moon--which it did not.
But what it did do,is once again show that the pictures taken on the !!moon!! are fake.
I wonder if you really take a good hard look at !!what is suppose to be! this proof you provide-->or do you prefer to turn a blind eye due to the need to believe.

It is ironic that the link your provided to show evidence that man was on the moon,ended up being a link that show's the pictures taken on the !!moon!! are fake.

The picture in the link you provided is quite good quality,and you can blow it up quite a lot on windows picture viewer,and it will still remain quite clear.
So after you have done that,could you please show us all where the wheel tracks for the rover are . I mean,i can clearly see the foot prints left by the moon walkers,but see no wheel tracks for the rover. Did the rover fly to that position?--maybe the moon walkers carried it there?

Here is the link TK posted to show the third party proof that man walked on the moon,and also the source for the image below -->for those interested in the truth.
So go ahead,copy and save the image from the provided !!proof!! link,and enlarge the image to see if you can find the rover wheel tracks.
There are no wheel tracks to either the front,rear or in between the wheels them self. This clearly shows the rover was lowered by some sort of winching device into place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

Brad