Mechanical Resonance (Projects)

[DR.WHO]

Ok That is something I can understand ! The out of phasing needs damping as there is a slight delay in kinetic transfer and the higher voltage is due to a change in resistance due to the extra magnets affect the coil .. Ohm law does not represent or hold for a reactive circuit like this set up and it can not represent resonance .

So the extra voltage or gain is due to some kind of harmonising in the electron field ! It would be most interesting if you feed the primary coil from the computer via an audio sine wave and build up harmonics via the audacity program as the resonator. This way you can stop the tuning fork and place a magnet between the two coils and continue to build up the free energy curve ..

As you add more harmonics you just increase the turns on the secondary reviving coil for more current ! The audacity program permits you cut and paste single waves and line them under each other creating a very powerful harmonic density . This than permits you to grow a very large amount of free energy if that is what you would like to happen ?

This may sound strange but with harmonics magnets and coils 1 watt can become 100 kw ....... And is done every day ! Good luck !




   


   
       

[tinman]

Here is a vid of the new setup.  The mags are not the ones I used to get the higher voltage on the pickup coil, The big mags are next. Then with a change to the height of the tuning fork on the base, Im making stands for using the original speaker magnet assys from which I got the coils from. The length of the tuning fork allows for a more straight movement of the coils if mounted to the fork, so I think I can get the speaker mag assys to work, The previous setup had to much angle of movement. So this may work well. When thats done we should see some better efficiency on the in and the out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OTyErrA9N8&feature=youtu.be


Mags

Nice going Mag's.
It was great watching the oscillations between the two sides when the strobe effect took place.
You could see that the two halves of the tuning fork were coming together at the same time--189* out of phase with each other .


Brad

[Magluvin]

Nice going Mag's.
It was great watching the oscillations between the two sides when the strobe effect took place.
You could see that the two halves of the tuning fork were coming together at the same time--189* out of phase with each other .


Brad

Thanks.  I believe you could be right. maybe 188deg. lol  But it does seem to have a delayed reaction on one prong if driving only the other side.
Laundry night.  Tomorrow Im making some posts with small magnets facing outward radially. It will fit in the coil. After testing a little bit, the original speaker magnets may be too close in tolerance in the mag gap.  But while I have things set up as is, Im going to try the post with small mags around it for both the drive and pickup.

Was able to get the pickup trace to go above in voltage of the drive voltage with this setup also. Havnt done any power measurements yet as Im looking for improvement of out voltage vs in voltage as best I can get. Being they are identical coils, I think the voltage difference an is important first goal.

Mags

[Magluvin]

Here is the first radial magnet assy for the tuning fork. took a couple different methods to get the mags to be held next to the other ones well enough to then glue. On the last one I had to lightly dremel the inner corners to make 7 sit on the surface of the tube and be level. Im doing the other one tomorrow. That last one was a bit tough as the 2 on either side were pushing it away hard and a couple times jumped out while going for the install knocking off others.    Tired. Been hot here today.

Will be interesting to see the differences if any with this config. To get more advanced I would make a larger outer tube with mags on the inside facing the outside of the coil, with mags set in attraction the the inner mags, seen below. That would make the fields cutting the coils very dense. One test at a time.

When I started this thread, I didnt intend to explore why resonance is. There is enough info out there that I need not repeat it. We know that resonance is available to us and I just want to explore the use of it if possible.  If this new mag assy makes any improvement, then I am a step forward. Im already seeing more voltage out on the pickup coil than what is input to the identical driver coil, using the same magnets for each. This is not typical with any devices I have worked with so far.

A week ago, I had a thought that driving an object into resonance, and considering that the object is say, storing the input energy, just may be the same as using a flywheel instead. But after some of these things we are seeing, I believe I have come back to my senses on that idea. My reasoning is to compare the 2.  If we have a pulse motor that is driven with 1 coil, and then have an identical coil as a gen coil, with a rotor(flywheel) with magnets, then go ahead and try to get as much voltage from the gen coil as you put into the drive coil. It cant happen. Many many times the gen coil voltage isnt even close to being the same as the input voltage.

But here we have already broken that barrier. So there is a difference in how the input energy is handled for the flywheel and a mechanical resonant device. 

Oh yeah. I took the 2 coils and put them face to face, driving one with the same signal and level I was driving the tuning fork with, and put the scope on both. The yellow trace shows the input sine and the pickup coil had shown nada. So this resonance thing beats out close air core induction and any pulse motor Ive seen with identical coils for the driver and gen coil.

Moving forward.....

Mags

[verpies]

So far I have gotten a higher voltage from the pickup coil than what is input to the other identical coil. Typically at these low freq if the 2 coils were set up as a 1 to 1 transformer, the pickup coil/secondary should only put out as much or less voltage than what was input to the driver/primary coil.

In my opinion, the stainless steel bars are not a good material for the tuning fork, because they are electrically conductive and they are immersed in the varying magnetic field from the coil.

Anytime you have a conductive material that is immersed in a varying magnetic field, Eddy currents get induced in it and they waste energy.


The tuning fork would be better composed out of glass rods ...at least the ends of the arms, that are immersed in the magnetic field.


P.S.
Are these coils air-core?