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DeBunk This

Started by tinman, April 15, 2016, 07:41:05 AM

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citfta

How about a simple pulse motor like the Bedini SSG and the magic bulb like the video just posted?  It wouldn't take much of a battery to turn one of those rotors as a pulse motor.  And if it had a magnet for a rotor and used another coil as the trigger coil it would have to be spun up to get it started.  The one coil is wrapped so it could be a bifiler coil for the trigger and run winding.  The battery and transistor could be inside the other coil.  Or the other way with the battery and transistor in the wrapped coil.

Sorry about the comment about a wrapped coil.  I just realized that was a different video.  But some clever machine work could put the parts into the inside of either coil.

Carroll

Lidmotor

You guys are coming up with some good ideas.  There might be several ways the 'illusion' is being done.  I am still going with AC mains power somehow getting into the thing.  Here is a something I tried today that uses the AC synchronous motor method. I don't think that this is exactly how it is done but it is one way someone could fake a free energy device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-qgjY0O_yQ
I'm am sure that some of the great builders on this forum could replicate that self-running duel shaded pole motor setup --if they wanted to. ;D
--Lidmotor

gyulasun

Hi Folks,

There is another video from the same guy I gave a link in my above post earlier and in this other video he shows a rotor which was equipped with a ferrite ring magnet, The magnetization direction is not mentioned for the ring magnet. 
Now if an open core mains transformer or just an AC driven multiturn coil (as Lidmotor showed above) is placed under the table, perhaps the rotor magnet could be influenced for rotation.  Here is the video showing the rotor with a ring magnet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0-bK3s_6Nc   (it would be enough to have a ring magnet in one of the motors only)

There is another possible explanation what the maker of this video says near the end of his video (at 9:16 and onwards), he thinks the guy uses very thin enameled wires leading to the motor connections and those wires cannot be seen in the faked video due to the not so high video resolution and the background chosen for the setup under the motors. And he says the fine wires may be driven from a (light) dimmer which is handled by a second person by turning the knob as the speed up illusion needs it. See the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpHDSzVysTY

This latter thin-wire-driving the motors could explain the working of the 25 - 40 W incandescent lamps connected occasionally in parallel with the motor coils (unless the lamps are faked ones too as Webby referred to it).

Gyula

Pirate88179

Quote from: tinman on April 15, 2016, 07:41:05 AM
How about a thread dedicated to debunking free energy devices,where some members may like to build a replica,and show how it was done?--could be fun.
or if you have a thought on how it was done,then post it here,and we will see if it could have been done that way.

I offer the first device,and this one is pretty tricky.
We see to shaded pole motors-one i assume acts as a prime mover,and the other as a generator. We see only the two motors joined together--no wires,and no sign of a battery. It would have to be one hell of a battery to drive that incandescent  bulb anyway.
Watch carefully,and think hard--how is it done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwMos1y1Peo


Brad

This device was debunked about a year ago by a guy I subscribe to on youtube..  Another guy made the same thing using the same motors and, Electronicsnmore on youtube replicated it and, of course it did not work.  I will try to find his video and see if he figured out how the guy was faking it.  It was a while ago so it might take me some time. 

I think the light bulbs are self-powered and would light up if those leads were just clipped together.  This reminds me of the computer fan motor "free energy" devices made using batteries and reed switches.  Many folks made these and claimed they were real.

What the heck is wrong with people?

Bill

***EDIT***

Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpHDSzVysTY
In it, he talks about 3 other guys that made the same thing.
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

MagnaProp

Found this device interesting a few months back. Started finding more and more replications of it. Looked like it might be possible as I was also starting to look at the Daniel McFarland Cook coil patent as well. Looked like there might be some similarities there.

Then I came across one replication video with that distinctive indian guys voice that does a lot of fake OU videos and quickly lost interest.

Looks like plenty of places to hide a battery in the coils or bulb. Perhaps an off camera coil putting out energy. With the number of replications I have seen, I don't think there is a wire that was taken out digitally.