MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[tinman]

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MileHigh

I can only speculate that your "magic" ability to answer the question and post the proper current trace is because someone took sympathy on you and emailed you the answer.

LOL--i have been waiting for this one to come MH--so predictable.
I gave the formula i used wayyy back in the thread,so your idiotic statement above is just some more rubbish for your pile you have built over this thread,and the JT thread.

Modifying an electric motor to deliver an "electrical output" is a ridiculous thing to do.  It's no surprise at all that you can't figure out why your challenge doesn't really make sense.

You truly are blind MH.
I guess you have never heard of rotoverter's ?.

You were not making any progress at all towards answering the question, you were a blank slate.You were not showing any indication at all that you were picking up on what was going on, there was nothing.

The fact is MH,i had no trouble in working out the current trace--as you think it should be.
But that dose not change the fact that i believe that is wrong.

And then suddenly out of nowhere you had the answer.

Another lie,as i posted the formula i used long before i gave you !your! current trace.

If my suspicions are indeed true then you are a fraud.

The only fraud here is you--and now another attempt to discredit me by way of your lies.

Look at your one attempt to answer Partzman's question, you mention a phase shift of 90 degrees when phase in this example does not even make sense and does not apply.

And why not?
I dont expect we will see an answer from you--ever.

You were just blindly throwing something at the answer for the sake of saying something.  If you want to get more out of your hobby then you need to get a good book.

And you need to take me up on my challenge--but we know why you will not--not even the one on a simple JT.


Brad

[tinman]

yes I can Weld ,built this out of junk around the shop a few weeks ago to raise some Bucs ,

I would rather wind a universal Chassis for Tinsel and you than build shrines....



Sincerely

Chet K

Ah,my kind of guy
Very nice Chet--nice build indeed.
I'm guessing MH would be lost at the wheel nut's.



Brad

[MileHigh]

Brad:

LOL--i have been waiting for this one to come MH--so predictable.
I gave the formula i used wayyy back in the thread,so your idiotic statement above is just some more rubbish for your pile you have built over this thread,and the JT thread.

But the formula had to be given to you, you had no clue.  I challenged you to make a posting explaining how this very simple circuit worked with no formulas allowed and you balked and tried another "build challenge first" as a diversionary tactic.  The simple fact is that you can't explain how the circuit works in your own words.  Suspecting that someone took sympathy on you and fed you the answer is a reasonable speculation.

Speaking of idiotic statements, this is an idiotic statement:  "At T=5 seconds,MHs device explodes."

Rotoverters are just curiosities for hobbyists.  You will not find rotorverters in real-world applications.

Look at your one attempt to answer Partzman's question, you mention a phase shift of 90 degrees when phase in this example does not even make sense and does not apply.

"Why not" a phase shift of 90 degrees?  That's for you to explain.  I asked you about that and you shied away and ignored the question.  You are also ignoring the fact that I said that it doesn't even make any sense.  Plus we can't forget that your attempt to answer the question was dead wrong yet again confirming that you have no idea what is truly taking place in the first question.

And you need to take me up on my challenge--but we know why you will not--not even the one on a simple JT.

No in fact I do not need to take you up on your challenge at all.  This is a thread about a question that deals with very basic electronics concepts that any experimenter worth their salt should be able to understand and answer without any problems whatsoever.  This is not a thread about hacking into motors or building Joule Thieves and all attempts by you to throw up that diversionary tactic are doomed to fail.

There is no real point in arguing this stuff any more Brad.  The conclusion is that you need to start learning basic electronics and that's all up to you.  You can pursue your hobby in a fog or with some understanding and clarity, it's your choice.  The bottom line is you still can't describe what is happening in this very simple circuit in your own words.  And then you scoffed at the other three variations of the circuit that I suggested that you try to answer which is not exactly confidence inspiring.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Ah,my kind of guy
Very nice Chet--nice build indeed.
I'm guessing MH would be lost at the wheel nut's.

Brad

You would guess wrong actually.  I have excellent mechanical aptitude but never pursued it.  I got the best mark in the class in my Industrial Arts course way back in high school and I absolutely loved working with a metal lathe.

Metaphorically speaking, you were lost at the "wheel nuts" of the first question and you still are lost in a fog.

[MileHigh]

Here is the basic question for Brad:

When you apply a voltage across an inductor what does it do?

And no, don't trot out how a real-world coil will work with a time constant, bla bla bla.  I am not interested in that.  Don't trot out the formula that you learned for an ideal coil with a DC voltage across it.  I am not interested in that.

Again, when you apply a voltage across an inductor what does it do?