Why Over-Unity is Possible

[shylo]

I will demonstrate my point with the magnet.
W=Fd (Work equals Force times distance)
F=W/d (Force equals Work divided by the distance)


If this ended here, that would be that, so to speak. However, there is more than one way to skin a cat, again so to speak. Yes, I like colloquialisms.


F=ma (Net Force equals mass times acceleration)


So, we are stuck with distance, and since the magnet appears to be stationary, how does that work?


d=vt (distance equals velocity times time)


Therefore, a 5g magnet hanging on the ceiling, overcoming a 9.18 ms/s downwards acceleration to remain at equilibrium yields:


F=45.9 Newtons
d= 9.18 meters is the distance the magnet has to move every second to overcome gravity.
W= 5 Joules per second required to remain in equilibrium.


If the 5g magnet were an electromagnet, those 5 Joules would be in electricity. Whether talking natural or artificial magnet fields makes no difference, as the work is still 5 Joules per second.

I agree.
Now add multiple fluxuating fields, it changes everything.
artv

[norman6538]

Overunity does exist.

1. the Finsrud rolling ball.

2. my pendulum that is dropped from 2 o'clock and goes down and up to almost
noon and then is not stuck there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FzK2XKQ-74
This pendulum starts at 2 oclock and drops past 10 oclock and on
up to noon and then falls down to 6 without getting stuck at any of the magnet 
sticky spots along the way. It is a careful tuning of magnet, gravity and inertia 
forces that make it work. The question is where does the energy come from to make 
it pass 9 oclock? Pendulums normally do not pass their dropping point.
There are no batteries or anything hidden - just magnets and a pendulum carefully 
arranged and adjusted to get that extra 2 hrs of motion. It would be similar to 
the Finsrud device in very simple terms but does not run itself.
I wanted this to be very simple so there can be no arguments.
The magnet under the paper pointer is vertical and a neo while the radial magnets
are lying down flat all in the same polarity.
I place them on metal to make it easy to make fine adjustments.
The very sad thing is that not one person has even tried to replicate it.


3. and my slider  here
http://www.overunity.com/14876/permanent-magnet-ou-machine-working-today/msg414883/#msg414883
   
But who cares ??
 
Norman

[memoryman]

pauldude000:
1: "W= 5 Joules per second" is wrong use of units.
2: "d= 9.18 meters is the distance the magnet has to move every second to overcome gravity." the magnet DOES NOT MOVE. That is the point.
Without rigor in the use of units, the result is wrong.

[pauldude000]

pauldude000:
1: "W= 5 Joules per second" is wrong use of units.
2: "d= 9.18 meters is the distance the magnet has to move every second to overcome gravity." the magnet DOES NOT MOVE. That is the point.
Without rigor in the use of units, the result is wrong.

1. Work is measured in Joules. I demonstrated work over a period of one second, so it is indeed 5 Joules per second. Look it up if you don't believe me. I can provide a link (or several) if you need.


2. I cannot help if you are falling prey to an optical illusion. Discounting velocities because they are inconvenient to your philosophy doesn't help your case.


Here is an experiment that will demonstrate your error in logic.


Experiment: Take said 5g magnet and touch it to a steel plate mounted to the ceiling. At the same time, take a 5g brass weight and place it next to the magnet and let go.


The brass weight is the same mass and gravity is exerting the same downward acceleration upon it as it does the magnet. You will find that the brass weight immediately accelerates downward to the floor at 9.18 Ms/s. That is the normal acceleration of a mass in that instance. You can repeat it with another type of nonmagnetic matter weighing 5g if you wish. The fact that the magnet APPEARS motionless is an optical illusion. It is accelerating upwards at equal or greater speed than gravity is accelerating it downwards, as the brass weight demonstrated. What this means is that the relative motion of the magnet is equal to or greater than 9.18 Ms/s. The magnetism is moving the mass of the magnet not the other way around -- you just can't see it, though you can indeed measure the motion by the apparent lack of motion which SHOULD be there.


Another way to look at it. Take a 500g electromagnet of sufficient strength to hold it against the same steel plate on the ceiling as the previous logical experiment. Hook up the current and measure the amount of energy used to hold it in place. Next -- turn off the switch. If no work is being done, then the net work is zero Joules and no energy is required. If no work is being done, then even with the switch off the electromagnet will miraculously stay on the ceiling. Something tells me that isn't going to be the result, just call it a hunch.

[forest]

I proposed long time ago a quite simple (for the scientists) experiment. Look here https://www.ted.com/talks/boaz_almog_levitates_a_superconductor?language=pl

I proposed to construct the most powerful magnet in the form of sheet around the tiny superconductor with isolation between them so it will looks like a round sheet piece of metal. The magnet must be very powerfull and ll must withstand low temperatures.

NOW , you may realize what I'm about. if that complex structure is able to levitate ALONE when put in very low temperature then we have a massive amount of data to modify our current theories.