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Overunity Machines Forum



TD replications

Started by Floor, November 18, 2016, 11:14:23 AM

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Floor

@Gotoluc

             
Nice work / video,   thanks

             floor

telecom

I looked at Gotoluc videos, which are very impressive,
except I would like to see the calculation based on work, and not on torque.
Its fairly easy to do, I think, by multiplying force by the length of the arch
of his apparatus.

Floor

Thanks telecom

QUOTE from telecom

"I looked at Gotoluc videos, which are very impressive,
except I would like to see the calculation based on work, and not on torque.
Its fairly easy to do, I think, by multiplying force by the length of the arch
of his apparatus."

END QUOTE

@ TELECOM

If you would please give us a presentation in detail,
of a prescription for / procedure for making those measurements

        and a

clear and direct explanation of the math (how to) integrate the force
over distance of magnets interacting (with examples).

This would be most appreciated.

Also if this is possible, could you present this in the topic below ?

                http://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/

                            best wishes
                                   floor

dieter

Quote from: gotoluc on December 30, 2016, 08:58:44 PM[/font]Humm :-\ ... if work in is greater then work out, how do you achieve OU?Ah, Gap-Power of Art Porter. He is a very good and generous man. I went to his home about 2 month ago. We looked at his devices and he let me bring back his first device (aluminum table) which I temporarily modified to test floor's research. He has also given us an extra coil and magnet set of his latest device used in the video you mentioned.It's true that you can use magnet in conjunction with electromagnets to more then double a electromagnet magnetic field strength. However, what is not apparent to many experimenters at first (including me till a few years back) is the counter electromagnetic field (CEMF) also doubles in strength which bring you right back to normal electromagnet behavior and is always under unity.I know for sure as I've tried to beat this for years without any success.The effect of CEMF was very apparent when I built a super build of my "Mostly Magnet Motor"The bottom line is, as soon as you turn on a coil (no matter how short the on time or multiple pulses used) if there's a moving magnetic field no matter how powerful your magnets are, you're dead at that point.Here is a shortcut to understanding the device and the end results: http://overunity.com/8429/mostly-permanent-magnet-motor-with-minimal-input-power/msg420188/#msg420188RegardsLuc
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I would not agree with that in all detail. Art did tests too, and over a longer period he would have noticed, whether the lead battery recgarge was only recovering or not. IMHO the special thing is the frontal approaching. In Attraction the fluxes of to magnets link, but in repulsion they siege oneanother, allowing the lorentz force of the secondary field (lenz drag) to act its natural orientation, that is 90deg sideways, which is why there is repulsion drag in rotational byepassing.
We talked about that. Hang a wire horizontally in the air, with a dc current. Approch magnet. Wire will go up, 90 deg from approaching direction. Accummulate all wires...
Well, however, that was my impression.

gotoluc

Here is an update and results on my idea of using metal shielding pulled in and out between the magnet rings to allow the remaining 220 degrees to rotate through to reset the device.
The test also includes floor's idea of using diametrically magnetized magnets (instead of metal) as shielding to do the same.

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMqBISjwieY

Tomorrow I'll post another video demonstration of a completely different design which combines part of floor's most recent video demo and my idea of using it which resets every cycle.

Stay tuned

Luc