Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets

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BTW, is this right:


2200uF at 7 V is about 50 millijoule?


That in a 6 ohm coil sounds like a short pulse.


(that was in my crude cap test)

it would be nice to know the initial speed - should show the kinetic energy produced.

[Acca]

 Deiter  different magnets react in different way to an energy pulse like an EMF discharge... Energy is converted  with a more efficient conversion to mechanical power..   Neo-Magnets are the best !!

Please look at this clip of  "Bruce DePalma" that made  the  "N-1 Homopolar Generator ".. from 1988  a local PBS radio show that was video recorded.. ( Yes he  is THE guy)..
His rotor is made of  Neo's ...(R.I.P. B. Depalma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSeTrO5U2zw

And "yes" there are already machines that are running on this principle ...

Neo Magnets.. are really UNIQUE ...!!!  YOU ARE RIGHT  !!!

Here is another clip of  that application... from India... Go figure that these must be owners who don't know about energy conservation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt21J3Oll-8 one from


P.s.              find the "diesel generator here ".....Published on Jun 6, 2016
FUEL-LESS,NON-POLLUTED AN ALTERNATE POWER SOURCE


Acca..

If you want one let me know... Sorry the motors are in Poland on E-Bay a 300KW
It's $17,000. plus shipping..
http://www.ebay.pl/itm/PMG-PMA-Brushless-Magnet-Generator-300kw-1500rpm-/282379098504?hash=item41bf1b1988:g:DzYAAOxyeR9THH9U

http://www.ebay.pl/sch/wind_energy/m.html?item=282379098504&hash=item41bf1b1988%3Ag%3ADzYAAOxyeR9THH9U&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

http://www.weiku.com/products/19744659/20kw_900rpm_3000rpm_High_Efficiency_Permanent_Magnet_Generator.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agkr53VJnvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zexS-QOnC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIZXhuJWtMI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8CEKgzTHOY

[gotoluc]

BTW, is this right:


2200uF at 7 V is about 50 millijoule?


That in a 6 ohm coil sounds like a short pulse.


(that was in my crude cap test)

Use this calculator: http://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Capacitor-Energy-Time-Constant-Calculator.phtml

Also, a coil also has an ideal on time (time constant) so a controlled on time switch between the capacitor and coil is preferable.
You ideally want a capacitor large enough not to experience a very large voltage drop from the on time once the coils ideal time constant is found.
Calculate the capacitors Joule energy before and after to find the coils consumption for its lift distance against gravity.
Use the math formula posted in my topic to find your score.

Best of luck

Luc

[gotoluc]

Deiter  different magnets react in different way to an energy pulse like an EMF discharge... Energy is converted  with a more efficient conversion to mechanical power..   Neo-Magnets are the best !!

Please look at this clip of  "Bruce DePalma" that made  the  "N-1 Homopolar Generator ".. from 1988  a local PBS radio show that was video recorded.. ( Yes he  is THE guy)..
His rotor is made of  Neo's ...(R.I.P. B. Depalma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSeTrO5U2zw

And "yes" there are already machines that are running on this principle ...

Neo Magnets.. are really UNIQUE ...!!!  YOU ARE RIGHT  !!!

Here is another clip of  that application... from India... Go figure that these must be owners who don't know about energy conservation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt21J3Oll-8 one from


P.s.              find the "diesel generator here ".....Published on Jun 6, 2016
FUEL-LESS,NON-POLLUTED AN ALTERNATE POWER SOURCE


Acca..

If you want one let me know... Sorry the motors are in Poland on E-Bay a 300KW
It's $17,000. plus shipping..
http://www.ebay.pl/itm/PMG-PMA-Brushless-Magnet-Generator-300kw-1500rpm-/282379098504?hash=item41bf1b1988:g:DzYAAOxyeR9THH9U

http://www.ebay.pl/sch/wind_energy/m.html?item=282379098504&hash=item41bf1b1988%3Ag%3ADzYAAOxyeR9THH9U&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

http://www.weiku.com/products/19744659/20kw_900rpm_3000rpm_High_Efficiency_Permanent_Magnet_Generator.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agkr53VJnvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zexS-QOnC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIZXhuJWtMI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8CEKgzTHOY

Dear Acca

I don't have time to go through all the videos you posted.
Is there one that clearly demonstrates power in vs power out?
That is the very first thing that must be considered. If not, then how can this help anyone?
Real research is about real results!... so ignore and stop spreading information that don't have a video demo clearly demonstrating this as you are not helping the OU research cause and doing quite the contrary. Post only proof.
Also, if what you post is not directly related to the topic (like what you posted) please start a new topic.
Sorry to come down on you but I get fed up with all the unproven garbage that keeps being perpetuated by people that don't build or test claims.

If I am wrong and you have built and tested this, please accept my apology and post your video demo in a new topic and I will be the first one to support and replicate.

Regards

Luc

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The future

Permanent magnets have their limits. However, in space temperature is near 0 deg. Kelvin resulting in superconductivity, which would increase the efficiency by several magnitudes. The resulting Free Energy could be used to power greenhouse spacestations and spaceships.

Reality has given us a proper and correct perspective.  We found out that using a larger magnet allowed the energizing pulse to become more efficient resulting in more push on the coil and less waste heat being burned off in the coil.  Our mistake was that we forgot to consider the all-important waste heat.  We deceived ourselves into thinking that the larger magnet was somehow acting like a source of energy when the energy actually came from the electrical pulse to the coil the whole time.

Superconductivity will do nothing special and not result in any extra energy.  So there is not going to be any free energy from magnets that can be used to power greenhouses or space stations or spaceships.

The right scientific test is a test that tries to account for all of the energy from the supplied electrical pulse to the coil.  From what I can see my test is the only test that tries to account for all of this energy and actually measure it.  If your measurements yield good data that confirms the hypothesis then you can congratulate yourself for doing a good experiment.  If you want to be really serious, you add estimated error tolerances to all of your measurements.

The conclusion:  Magnets are not a source of energy.