A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome

[ARMCORTEX]

Don't dodge H2Opower,

Show me a far away picture of what is it you spend 30k on, I don't need details.

If after 7 years and 30k spent, no return on investment, its time to move on in life. Tenacity is a good thing sometimes, other times its a fools errand.

Why does it always have to be about hope, teamwork? Its about results, and individuals becoming knowledgeable about science, practical in engineering practice, then maybe it could be a hobby.

First you learn at your own speed (but not too slow),amath, modern software, electronics, software, hydraulics, rf and microwave science, chemistry. You can't learn everything obviously, you pick and choose. Then you get a job, then when you have time over unity.

These all in moves  are nothing but moronic, overunity is not a proper way of life, to live for this quest is destructive.

[Zephir]

after 7 years and 30k spent, no return on investment, its time to move on in life. Tenacity is a good thing sometimes, other times its a fools errand

The findings which are moving progress forward are getting increasingly complex and difficult to comprehend. This looks logical, because the Nature doesn't gives its gifts for free. But because the life-time of people remains limited, this may become one of barriers for overunity research. Such a complex and paradigm changing research requires increasing effort and coordinated life-span of multiple people for successful bringing it into market. The lone inventors working in diaspora are therefore limited not only by amount of available resources - but also with length of their productive life and volume of information, which they can process in a single moment.

Unfortunately just the people who dedicated their life to a single idea - and the idea of such immense market potential in addition - aren't very willing to share the know-how with their peers, for cooperation the less. The selfishness of individuals plays too well with greediness of government and energetic lobby in this case. This in part explains, why so-many overunity findings didn't survive their inventors. Which may also bring the false impression for skeptics, that there is something systematically wrong with all these findings at once - and the vicious circle of pluralistic ignorance will get closed.

So, whereas I can understand your resignation and desperate attitude, you shouldn't transfer your lost of faith to another newer members of this forum here. You should leave it in silent dignity and not to reside here for attacking more determined followers from pure jealousy. Too many senior members of this forum already started here to rationalize their lack of success on overunity field and they converted into less or more hostile patoskeptics in this way. The elderly elephants know well, when they should separate from crowd for not to become a brake of its further progress.

[ramset]

Zephir
I see you present Kanziuos work in your water arc thread ?
you are aware that his work used incredibly high input power to do this ?

not even close to OU, nor was that his claim ,he was looking for cancer cure?

and many members here did replicate Naudlin's work too [I believe Pomodoro was one]

it would be better to share new developments than copy paste things here which have been gone over many times ?

I will not post in your threads [keep them free of distractions from your purpose]

You have shown No work of your own ? nor where experimenters here went wrong in their attempts.

honestly it seems there are very big holes in your knowledge of topics here,
are you learning on the run?
trying to show some value here ?,


over men who actually have done experiments and can see right thru you?? ??

[Zephir]

not even close to OU, nor was that his claim ,he was looking for cancer cure?

Overunity wasn't actually Kanzius claim, but one of prof. Rustum Roy, who did replicate his experiments at Pennsylvania State University in more quantitative way (1, 2). His technology wasn't successful as a cancer cure - actually I believe, poor Kanzius got leukemia just from his experiments, which decompose the water into hydrogen and hydrogen peroxide. Peroxide isn't best cure of cancer in general. Recently Petros Zographos presented very similar technology - just with using of higher frequencies - so I've no reason not to believe in Roy-Kanzius claims concerning overunity.

I will not post in your threads - keep them free of distractions from your purpose

And I'd really appreciate it.

[ramset]

Zephir
I spoke with Petros late last year, asked him why his hydrogen flame was so "lazy and yellow" ,asked him if he could drive his motorcycle into one of the 160 auto emission centers in his country and give us a print out [gas spectrometer]

all I heard was Crickets....and "call my lawyer"....
it was asking too much to drive the scooter into an emission center for proof??

yeesh.......



Zephir
your playing games here, we can all read the newspaper ....