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Overunity Machines Forum



Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass

Started by vikram_gupta11, April 26, 2017, 03:48:47 AM

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vikram_gupta11

There is no need of any kind of software to know the feasibility of this concept .If you have understood it and above all there are no chance of the wrong math in this device .

memoryman

1: gravity is conservative (look it up if you don't understand)
2: where do you get the 10W motor figure from?

vikram_gupta11

The both 100 kg. mass can move freely in the box or in other words on the surface of piston generator.
The equation F=ma will be worked in a different way as here we are not turning an Imbalanced mass but a balanced system .if masses are equal or a seesaw is in equilibrium position then the applied force will be very very less to turn it.
I have used 10 watt or 10 newton force  so that anyone could understand it easily.
The mass will be jumped  due to applied force and due to free movement in the box as the arm will exert a force  on the masses.
Remember that the whole system is  in a balanced position untill a 10 watt or 10 newton force is not applied  but when 10 newton force will be applied then it will turn .I have put 5 centimeter jump figure to understand the concept as you also know that the masses will be jumped up to more height such as 10 cm. to 20 cm as it will be depend on the length of "L" form crank.If mass is balanced then according to F=ma the F=a or both 100 kg.mass will be accelerated  as per applied force.it is not necessary to take input 10 watt or 10 newton force .The input force can be 5 watt or 5 newton force.
I have also mentioned that the efficiency of generator is 50% but it can be more 70 to 85% so it is very much clear that it will work.

vikram_gupta11

How did you calculate the figure that a 10 watt motor will have to consume 4.9 joule energy?
10 watt motor will be not consumed energy to jump the masses as per your calculation.


If the mass is hitting with generator then the generator will produce 25 watt electricity with the  50%efficiency and if we take 70% efficiency of the generator then it will produce 35 watt and overall electricity output will be 70 watt by both generators as it is not necessary that the efficiency will be only 50 % of these generators.

You also know that to turn this seesaw there will be need of very less energy even I can turn it with the help of my finger tip or with my breathe so to jump the mass there will be need of very less energy.I have used 10 watt motor input to understand the concept and it is not necessary that the ball will jump up to only 5 centimeter .The balls can jump up to 10 to 20 centimeter if we use 10 watt or 10 newton force as a input .   F=ma will not work here as you think as masses are in balanced position .

citfta

Quote from: vikram_gupta11 on April 29, 2017, 12:27:45 AM
How did you calculate the figure that a 10 watt motor will have to consume 4.9 joule energy?
10 watt motor will be not consumed energy to jump the masses as per your calculation.


If the mass is hitting with generator then the generator will produce 25 watt electricity with the  50%efficiency and if we take 70% efficiency of the generator then it will produce 35 watt and overall electricity output will be 70 watt by both generators as it is not necessary that the efficiency will be only 50 % of these generators.

You also know that to turn this seesaw there will be need of very less energy even I can turn it with the help of my finger tip or with my breathe so to jump the mass there will be need of very less energy.I have used 10 watt motor input to understand the concept and it is not necessary that the ball will jump up to only 5 centimeter .The balls can jump up to 10 to 20 centimeter if we use 10 watt or 10 newton force as a input .   F=ma will not work here as you think as masses are in balanced position .

The part I highlighted is only one of your many mistaken ideas.  It always takes force to move a mass.  It doesn't make any difference if the mass is balanced you still have to overcome the inertia of the mass.  And that takes force which you do not seem to understand.

Carroll