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Overunity Machines Forum



Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator

Started by casiano, August 10, 2017, 11:16:51 AM

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antijon

TK, I'm not familiar with those meters, never had one, but it seems that zero is a function after watts and before power factor. Earlier in the video when he's only pulling 33w he cycles the functions and the zero still shows. The meter can't overload at 33w if it clearly shows 933w at the end of the video.

Nelson, I've tried to dissect your wiring in the reactive test videos but failed. Why so much electric tape!? Haha

It looks like you have the motor power across the run and start winding, with the neon between the start and common connection. If that's true, the motor will have a large inductance, and that would explain the low RPM and low power consumption.

I know the toroid acts like a mag amp- when the switch on the secondary is open, it has a high reactance. Closing the switch shorts the secondary and drops reactance enough to start the motor. Opening the switch increases reactance. So I'm guessing the toroid is in series with the motor.

I understand that a high inductive reactance will show less real power (watts) because the power factor is below 1. I don't understand how apparent power can be used to reduce real power input, but keep real power output to the load. ???

What I'm asking is, if I used an electron trap to power a load, will it reduce both real and apparent power from line?

I'm lost with Barbosa and Leal. I read that they used a battery and small inverter to power their device, then to power a factory. https://youtu.be/m9JIqkUh47Q Supposedly this video. If their device used apparent power, they would still require a large inverter to supply the current. Any thoughts?

nelsonrochaa


Hi AlienGrey,
I wish to say that i really don't care about what some people could say or bring to table related with any of my videos where i made my own personal tests , i just can't resist answer sometimes when some persons make assumptions and try find all reasons to justify everything like they know everything what is happens because seems the don't understand.

First off all and is a big difference  between me and some of this persons , i don't earn money by sell or promote by my own some of my systems that i shot in video to youtube to a wide public, but i prefer in that way because no one could accuse me of fool anyone or sell any information about any of my tests or how to replicate them.
The meters used was the best  i have available in that time "some years ago" but they are commercial meters and maybe all that meters used are only crazy giving crazy data :)  maybe  .....  like some months ago happens with some experts guys of this forum when they try make some measurements with professional scope units and all necessary rules in a particular system and they measure OU in their own tests. could happens :) shit happens :)

The other point is that older videos are only tests i do myself and not to community in general . I'm not like some persons that only like promote their own videos trying to earn some dollars and some attention to elevate their ego , i prefer maintain myself in background mode, and talk with people that choose by their own ask me about in particular way , and that make a big difference between me and someone that want try cheat other person .


Antijon,

I really don't know if Barbosa Leal system  works or not because the circuit that i show is a bit different and don't work under same principles , i just could talk about my own tests and my system ,  not for the other's project.
That particular system is not overunity even because is not self looped (seems imperative to some )  and only use a way to use reactive power to reduce the final bill of electricity , but seems is illegal like i was informed a few years ago by the electrical company provider departament from Portugal when i conducted that tests years ago  (In German is not allowed too . I was warmed about possibles legal issues if i continue use this system directly to grid , and that make me advance to  a different approaches. So i that way i could not continue with tests on this particularly circuit .
I just could say when is used a inductive loads this particularly system act different instead a resistive load , and that is visible in power factor values in smart meters .  If a inductive load is connected and the power factor is near zero for sure you know what it means :) .

Like i told in begin my videos are only my own tests ,only with a particular value to me , without any intention of promote any particular goal .

cheers

Nelson Rocha






Void

Quote from: nelsonrochaa on August 13, 2017, 03:27:57 PM
Like i told in begin my videos are only my own tests ,only with a particular value to me , without any intention of promote any particular goal .

Hi Nelson. Nice to hear from you. My impression was your more recent video which showed the self running
device was a valid self runner, was it not? Did you not sell that technology to some company in Europe?
Maybe I misunderstood?
All the best...


nelsonrochaa

Quote from: Void on August 13, 2017, 03:54:23 PM
Hi Nelson. Nice to hear from you. My impression was your more recent video which showed the self running
device was a valid self runner, was it not? Did you not sell that technology to some company in Europe?
Maybe I misunderstood?
All the best...

Hi Void ,
Thanks by comment ,
i really don't know to what video you refer in particularly because i produce lot of videos last month's related with such subject's , but probably you are referring to the self feedbacked system running the 3  phases motor and charge the same batteries of input system . that system is a self feedback system with apparently COP of near 3 on output :) https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=I_eja4gmpcY
This system ideia was not sold yet because happens some issues with supporter investor's and they want a laboratory certified measures by a independent entity . 

The concept of self runner could be misunderstood if not totally understand . To me a self runner system is a system that able to recover some of energy dissipated in a close circuit in a particular point and apply it again in the system to improve main efficiency  and maintain a storage buffer charged to able the system run with a small input like a small capacity battery or solar panel or even without input by some period of time and able to obtain a "amplified" output in relation to input by a process of current amplified magnetic resonant circuit .

I experiment two years ago with other type of concept much more improved than the last one i talk, but seems Not meet the necessary safety conditions to be used in a commercial product due to possible health problems caused by system, because create some type of artificial radiation with impact in human health  .

I only sell until now a small circuit ideia of self feedbacked LED light system  to a South Korean company some 4 years ago;
at moment  i'm trying solve some legal issues with the present company that finance last 3 years of my research , so i don't feel much comfortable talk about some of this subjects on moment because some legal issues and personal compromises.

Hope you become clarify about what you ask .

cheers













 

TinselKoala

Well, Nelson, perhaps I owe you a small apology. Perhaps. Someone gave me a link to the manual for the US version of the power meter you used in that video, and perhaps I was misinterpreting the "overload" 0 watts message where it was appearing in your video.

To settle the issue, can you please perform the following simple test that someone else suggested. Simply connect a 1 amp fuse in series between the wattmeter and the White Box, then run the vacuum cleaner on the output of the White Box as before.

If there is truly "0 Watts" drawn as the wattmeter suggested in your video, then the fuse obviously won't blow as the vacuum cleaner runs at full power.