170 watts in - 1600 watts out - looped - Very impressive build and video

[konehead]

Hi E2matrix
Me too, in thinking what might happen is the change to solid state using mosfets or whatever from the noisy mechanical relays that Pierre uses is going to snuff out much of the CEMF or backemf/recoil energy coming out backwards and through the diodes from the switching.....

Gary Porter was saying that you can buy mosfets with no "protection diodes" within them....I don't know the model numbers or anything however, these might be the right thing to use if there are problems going to solid state switching....  Does anyone know model numbers or type of these? (I should ask GP I guess too)
..perhaps mosfets paralleled to lower and lower that resistance of switch when closed might be needed...
Ideal would be the resistance of a simple mechanical switch when switch is closed which would be say .02 ohms....
Another idea for switching  is to simply build or have built common copper commutator with spring loaded carbon brushes....say two 18 pole commutators (one for N one for S pulsing)  and a couple brushes on each (or three to do the overlap period?)  Some sort of pulse width control  too would be ideal....now it would be dead-reliable even EMP proof...anyways just some more ideas and thoughts...

[TinselKoala]

Mosfets do not contain "protection diodes". They have "body diodes" that are a consequence of how they are constructed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_MOSFET#Body_diode

Mosfets are available that have very low on-state resistance, much less than "0.02 ohms" in many cases. But they all have the body diode. If you are looking for a fast switching element that does not contain this diode, you are not looking for a mosfet.

Paralleling mosfets has its own set of problems. One must insure that the load is shared equally among the paralleled mosfets or you will wind up blowing a lot of parts.

[memoryman]

TK, exactly my sentiments. I live in Ontario (approx 1 hr west of Toronto) and may be willing to partake.
I have grave doubts about the validity of his claims and the methodology of Pierre. Look at his prior videos of 'free energy' devices and you'll see what I mean.

[seaad]

This is a classic case of "cart before horse". The +first+ thing that should be done, before anyone spends time and effort on replication, is _confirmation_ that Pierre actually has what he has claimed to have.

why not work on replicating Pierre's other, much more simpler Mo-Gen-Flywheel apparatus, also touted by him as being 100 percent OU?  If it turns out to be genuinely OU, _or not_, that may also tell us something about the reliability of his other claims, no?

==> TinselKoala
But it seems to be a very costly and time consuming hoax !!

Mo-Gen-Flywheel apparatus:  énergie gratuite a 100% fr : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6cJmVdeyYU
I come to think of  that_prophet with his pulleys.


And about relays : http://www.pickeringrelay.com/2016/04/07/reed-relay-comparison/

Regards / Arne

[gotoluc]

I want to toss out one thought that has been nagging at me regarding substituting solid state devices for the relays.   This is just a vague feeling that there may be some importance in keeping mechanical relays.  I won't try to explain it but I believe other people here may know what I mean and I think some have made reference to it possibly affecting the outcome of a build.   Anyway it's just a thought to keep in mind in case a build doesn't work out using solid state.  BTW I just checked dhgate.com for some 12 volt 20 amp relays.  I found with just a quick search they can be had for around $1.50 a piece if we needed to go that way.

Thanks e2matrix. I did think of the difference. If solid state fails then I will have to try with relays just to be sure.

This is a classic case of "cart before horse". The +first+ thing that should be done, before anyone spends time and effort on replication, is _confirmation_ that Pierre actually has what he has claimed to have. Instead of spending money and time on building something that isn't even what Pierre demonstrated in the first place, the time and money should go towards financing a site visit to Pierre's location. And I don't mean a "PESN" style "ohh-ahh" visit with no real examination. This is an earth-shattering, paradigm-shifting, Nobel-prize-winning claim IF TRUE, and should be examined with a fine toothed comb (and all appropriate and necessary test equipment) before anyone gets all excited about it.

How much would it cost to send Luc up to Ontario to visit with Pierre and do a complete examination of the original device? I think a "sugar daddy" might be found to finance the whole trip, while the rest of the investigators sit back and wait for confirmation and more precise build instructions (IF the claims turn out to be true.)

Meanwhile, while waiting for some real confirmation, why not work on replicating Pierre's other, much more simpler Mo-Gen-Flywheel apparatus, also touted by him as being 100 percent OU? Anyone with skills should be able to put that one together in a couple of hours. If it turns out to be genuinely OU, _or not_, that may also tell us something about the reliability of his other claims, no?

What you say is true and makes some sense TK. However, the reality, practicality and price difference for me or someone else to visit Pierre in the Quebec area (if he would agree) would probably be costlier then to just build and test it.
So far it hasn't cost me a dime and I don't expect it will since we are all working together. A trip back and forth to visit Pierre could easily cost $500. Building it has probably cost partzman less then $100. bucks. I have all the other supplies needed and more in the lab space I have free access to.
Also, the H-Bridge and Arduino can be reused by everyone needing it in the group. So I don't think it's as much waste as you make it sound.
In all the experiments I've performed over the years I can't say I have ever experimented with a rotating electromagnetic field in the conditions Pierre has demonstrated.
This will be a learning experiment and become experience once completed.

Regards

Luc