12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[hartiberlin]

@Scorpile
Please post a movie.

I am not at home where I have my WM2D setup.

Do you say, you can lift a 50 Kg weight how high with 6.6 Newton force ?

Normally it would only lift 0.673Kg ?

I still think Hans is wrong with his assumptions,
cause he models his setups wrong.

You have to restrict your motion of the weight lifting side
to the up and down plane ( Y-plane) by mechanical means
like in Milkovic?s latest blue pump
and that is where Hans?s models are wrong.

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Stefan and all,

My model only ever intended to show what happens in the system with various arrangements where no actual work is being done and where the movement is unrestricted.

In other words I am showing its behaviour at maximum.

Any clamping or restrictions imposed on top of this will cost energy, not add it.

Hans von Lieven

Edit:

BTW   I don't know what you are talking about when you say New blue pump.



This picture of the exact same pump was taken in 2002 ! All he did was take a picture of it in a different setting

[hartiberlin]

As:
F= m x g

m= F / g

Energy= m x g x h = F x g x h / g = F x h

it depends how high you can lift your 50 Kg weight
with 6.6 Newton force ?

[tinu]

...
BTW   I don't know what you are talking about when you say New blue pump.



This picture of the exact same pump was taken in 2002 ! All he did was take a picture of it in a different setting

Lol!
I?ve never seen that picture, nor could I ever imagine it is that old!
Besides, it looks like taken during a fair. I doubt there is a water-well beneath the pump. So, water might be only re-circulated from the red bucket and useful work done is very, very low. No wonder that pump is easy to run. If water was not re-circulated, one can bet that curious visitors like me would have pumped tens of minutes just for convincing themselves but then, at 1200liters/min? where would hundreds of liters of water went? Clearly not on the ground.

Lol again and end of story.
Cheers,
Tinu

[hansvonlieven]

@ Tinu,

It is obvious he is pumping it from the red bucket back into the red bucket. And yes, you are right this picture was taken of his exhibit in some agricultural show in Serbia.

Hans von Lieven

BTW I got the dates slightly wrong. Milkovic on his website adds the following commentary to this picture

Picture 1. Public presentation of the hand water pump with a pendulum during the Agricultural Fair in Novi Sad (Serbia), 2003. The invention won a gold medal during the 2002 fair.

So, the pump was made in or before 2002, the picture was taken in 2003.

My apologies for the mix up. It doesn't alter anything though, does it?