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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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FreeEnergy

Quote from: 2tiger on December 12, 2006, 05:14:42 AM
Hi all
If you are trying to close the loop don?t use a crank with a flywheel. The mass of the flywheel will create a back drag on the lever and influence the swinging pendulum.
In my opinion the pendulum has to swing free in order to create this effect (12 times more ...).
The crank will also synchronize this device and I?m sure that this is not what we are looking for.
Stefan mentioned this before in one of his replies, that here is a kind of phase shifting in play.
The idea with the one way gear in the center of the lever seems very good to me.
But I would also try this one you see in the pic. With parts of a harddisk-drive, the read/write head.

add:
In that way you can tap the energy directly form the coil and mantain the swinging motion.

You can also align a few of them. In series or even in parallel if you want.

kr
2Tiger

Quote from: FreeEnergy on December 01, 2006, 02:32:58 AM
so i am guessing to close the loop we would place a magnet at the end of the massive lever arm where it swings back and forth close to some wrapped coil and that wrapped coil would feed a capacitor and that capacitor would run a small motor to keep the pendulum swinging so this way the system sustains itself in motion :)

or have the coil wrapped around the massive lever arm where it swings back and forth close to some magnets. the coil would feed a capacitor and that capacitor would run a small motor to keep the pendulum swinging so this way the system sustains itself in motion  ;)

bsrinon

I think you guys are correct about not using a flywheel wheel with a crank. However, I believe a flywheel will work if it is freewheeling, as in the back wheel of a bike. It's freewheeling relative to the crank in one direction so it does not interfere with the pendulum as much. The back wheel would be the flywheel. That's why I like Sam's the idea of the one-way gear.

Also, in the drawing where there are coils and neo magnets near the pivot point of the lever, maybe it was left out on purpose, but there should be a counter weight to the pendulum, such as a massive left arm, or an arm connected to a counter spring.

Below is another diagram using bicycle parts. Thanks for the ideas.

Brian

bsrinon

Hey guys,

I just emailed the inventor himself, Veljko MilkoviÃ,,‡.  Hopefully, he will respond with some good advise and suggestions.

Here's what I emailed:

Hello Mr. Milkovic,

In the www.overunity.com discussion forum, we are discussing your pendulum invention. Thank you for sharing it with us in your website.

Attached is an idea that we came up with using your concepts of the pendulum.

Can you give any suggestions or improvements on it? From this link we know that we can get a force on the pendulum side that is 3 times the weight of the pendulum, assuming it starts at 90 degrees:

http://www.vernier.com/discussion/index.html?topic=54

Looking forward for any input you can give us.

Best Regards,

Brian

gyulasun

Hi Brian,

I think that was a good idea from you and from my part I look forward to see the outcome  ;)

Probably you have noticed Veljko MilkoviÃ,,‡'s patent references at his site,  http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/PatentiEng.html and the good thing is he also considered to generate electricity with his lever+pendulum setup, see http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Patenti/Patent3.jpg    and a modification of the basic setup: http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Patenti/Patent18.jpg where he replaced the pendulum with a electric motor and an arm attached to the electric motor's shaft to utilize gravitational and centrifugal forces transformed to the other side of the lever.

Supersam's idea is also excellent with the one way gear, I do agree and the notices/suggestions from 2tiger are also very very good.

Thanks to you all!

rgds,  Gyula

supersam

KONDUCT,

where are you man?  this keeps looking better and better! i think with just two spare bikes 2$ u.s. we can not only keep the pendulum moving with brians idea we should be able to generate excess power.  where are you?  with your speed in replication this thing could be put to bed before i even get back to my shop!!!!  i hope you are still watching this. or maybe someon else can jump on this.  it would sure be a nice christmas present for me!!

lol

sam