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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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astroshima

Quote from: Merg on November 04, 2008, 12:00:12 PM
I have just got this paper - the author explained very well why E=mgh is NOT correct input Energy measurement and adequate method for this machine?!:
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Jovan_Marjanovic_Recommendations_for_Efficiency_Measuring.pdf
Thank you for the link!
There are few issues about it but I will comment only one:
If you read my previous posts you will see that I have commented one particular measurement scenario described by Jovan Bebic in paper:
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Analysis_Jovan_Bebic_2-measuring.pdf
That scenario includes only one lift of the pendulum!!!
And for that particular scenario and that particular apparatus, I think measurement of input energy calculated by formula E=m*g*h is correct.

In that paper Bebic claims that "ratio of energy at the output and energy at the input is 22.89"
To prove that (overunity) claim all he have to do is to put Generator at lever-beam side (to measure output Energy) and (since input Energy is measured correctly by formula E=m*g*h) to pick up the Nobel Prize (and money with it)!

I personally believe he and Milkovic did that measurement but decided not to publish the results.
I think that they have no problem to constantly publish the measurement results of "overunity", but seems (to me) that they have problem to publish other (correct and scientific) measurements that do not show overunity... I think that this people maybe believe that by hiding some measured data will help "their" cause.
Well I also think that when somebody measure and publish all relevant data we will all better see with what we are dealing here...
Seems that now we can't see the whole picture because the people that have oscillators do not publish all measured data.

astroshima

Quote from: tagor on November 05, 2008, 06:12:58 AM
QuoteQuote from: Merg on October 29, 2008, 03:50:58 PM
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Jovan_Bebic_Precise_input-output_energy_measurement.pdf
sorry but the maths are not correct
And to be able to figure out correct math we need correct Physics!
Author (Jovan Bebic or somebody other...) should post System Equations first and then we could see what force is he measuring.