12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[PulsedPower]

Just a thought on how to drive this and extract power from it. Variable reluctance driver triggered by a position sensor to drive the pendulum as shown in the italian diagram and a magnet or a stack of magnets moving past a slotted pole piece with a coil to extract power from the magnetic circuit, better known as a linear motor (generator in this case) rectify the output from the coil use the DC to run the pendulum exciter. No problem with variable stroke, cyclic linear motors like this are well proven in the refrigeration and cryogenic fields where they are used to drive compressors.

[hartiberlin]

Newton?s laws remain intact and so does CoE. There is NO overunity in the device as designed by Milkovic.

Hans von Lieven

As I cannot upload the avi to the server here because of its size I have put it on my website.
http://keelytech.com/overunity/milkovicdouble.avi you can download it from there.

Hi Hans,
nice animation. Well done.
Yes, now I see, what you mean.

You mean a 2 coupled oscillator system where the energy swings from one
oscillator back to the other oscillator and back and forth again.

Well, maybe you can post your WM2D file.

I think the Milkovic device can only work,
if the 2 fulcrum lever arms have a different length.
Then there is the needed asymmetry there and THEN
ONLY can the gravity energy conversion work.

The principle to extract gravity energy is to modify the weight
of one fulcrum lever arm and thus lift the other arm up and down
with a much higher force x distance = Energy.

This can only work, if both lever arms have a different length.

So your example does not fit or just describes the case
where the energy amplification has a factor = 1 so COP = 1.

You have to choose the right setup parameters to get COP > 1
that means to set the lever arm length on each side right.

Regards, Stefan.
P.S: Also we have another slightly different setup as in your example,
cause we "rectify" the motion of the pendulum who does the output load work
(pump action in the last example)
cause we just lift and release a weight VERTICALLY, so it can not swing
horizontally, so we "rectify" or "limit" the dimensions it can swing in...( so to say)

If you look again to the guy who is pushing the pendulum at the blue
pump, no way he is using more than 1 to 2 Watts for this action
and the pump needs at least 10 Watts including all the friction to pump up
the water.
Also you see, that it also does not use the leverage of blue pump handle
which you can see, that it is not used anymore, so the
Milkovic lever arm has to pull the pump rod with lots of force
to directly lift the water up.
So the pump device has at least a COP of 5 in my opinion.

[hansvonlieven]

Hi Hans,

...................Well, maybe you can post your WM2D file.

Not a problem Stefan. Here it is:

Hans von Lieven

[capthook]

Upon further evaluation ? I?m not sure it?s over-unity.  In fact ? I think what the device/principle is really doing is:

Applying a long stroke/low power impulse to the pendulum

And converting it to a short stroke/high power impulse to the anvil end.

Thus ? just changing the frequency of the energy.

Someone earlier mentioned something along these lines - to long a topic to search for who......

Anyway ? the device and ideas are interesting.  It?s application as a water pump seems efficient.  Low power applied to pendulum results in high power driving the pump.  Thus the ?work? required by the user is reduced significantly.

A small, elderly woman could do the work that would normally require a strong, young man to do.

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No takers on refinement ideas for my "cog fins" idea?

CH

[hansvonlieven]

Upon further evaluation ? I?m not sure it?s over-unity.  In fact ? I think what the device/principle is really doing is:

Applying a long stroke/low power impulse to the pendulum

And converting it to a short stroke/high power impulse to the anvil end.

Thus ? just changing the frequency of the energy.

That is exactly what it is doing CH.

As far as your cog fin idea is concerned this cannot work as drawn. The pendulum must receive a short sharp push at the correct time in order to absorb energy. Anything else will be counterproductive.

You have two cycles of the working end lever to every one cycle of the pendulum. What you must do is to store that energy and release it in one burst at the correct time. Your arrangement cannot do this.

Hans von Lieven