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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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fer123

Hello. Ufopolitics, love your work.
Can you elaborate more in this important statement you had made
(But this goes a bit more clever...see Pierre had 36 slots on his core, that allowed him to add 36 coils where 18 contained 3 poles and other 18 were the other 3 poles, However, he managed to always keeping the whole six rotating poles "alive" by only reversing a minority of coils on both ends of half circumference or at 180°)?. This is a critical step in the process of keeping the electromagnets alive constant.
Thanks.

Ufopolitics

Quote from: fer123 on June 05, 2022, 05:48:13 PM
Hello. Ufopolitics, love your work.
Thanks Fer, yes I know you do, and I appreciate that.

Quote from: fer123 on June 05, 2022, 05:48:13 PM
Can you elaborate more in this important statement you had made
(But this goes a bit more clever...see Pierre had 36 slots on his core, that allowed him to add 36 coils where 18 contained 3 poles and other 18 were the other 3 poles, However, he managed to always keeping the whole six rotating poles "alive" by only reversing a minority of coils on both ends of half circumference or at 180°)?.
This is a critical step in the process of keeping the electromagnets alive constant.
Thanks.

Yes Fer, this is one of the more important properties to have a successful generator.
Pierre had six poles (or three magnetic fields) because he wanted to run at lower frequencies...same as a typical generator works...the more poles the less RPM's(frequency) required to operate it, and still outputing 60 Hz.

So, in order to explain how to keep alive the six poles while rotating the whole three fields is not a simple geometry, unless I show many graphics...which I do not have the time now.
So, let me try with letters to explain this:
Pierre had 36 coils and six poles...and in order to do that, each pole is made of six coils (6X6=36)
In order to keep each pole "alive" only two coils on each side of the pole must be switching (reversing), that leaves four (4) coils that are not switched per pole in a fraction of time/degree of movement.

One N pole = NNNNNN (six coils oriented North)
One S pole = SSSSSS (six coils oriented South)
Now let's just see a Center North pole between two South poles, it should look like:

SSSSSS-NNNNNN-SSSSSS

Now, since I do not have "colors" here for letters...I will just use bold letters for the transitioning (switching) coils, and brackets ([]) to delimit the transition:

>SSSSS[S>N]NNNN[N>S]SSSSS>

On the above let's just analyze the center N pole (configured by six coils"N")...where the bold "N" are the coils being switched per time unit (say seconds)

The left S Pole last "S" coil, would be transitioning into outer coil of N Pole...
As also the right outer "N" coil , would be switching to an "S" Coil for the right S Pole...
And so, we have moved the whole N pole 10º to the Left...(if we have 36 coils, each coil comprehends 10º, or 36X10=360º)

Other way to see it...

The center N Pole has moved 10º to the left by gaining one South coil switched to North on left, while loosing one N Coil to South on right side.

While the four center N coils remained unchanged. This fact keeps the main N Pole Field "alive"...or ON, during the transition.

The same applies to all South Poles next to N Pole...and to all other Poles in the whole circumference.

Hope you understand it better now...


Cheers


Ufopolitics
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fer123

Thanks for the reply, very well explaind an clear how the switching works, even without colors well understood.
In relation with this circuit is very important  to have in consideration the coils configuration.
Do you thing the capture lenz reaction with the diodes is very important? From north side or both?
Thanks alot.
Best for you and yours.

Ufopolitics

To All interested in reviewing this Thread comments made by Pierre Cotnoir who is Pedro1 here...
You can go to "show members all posts" from pedro1:

pedro1 all posts

Even though, there are some "loss of translation" from French to English...in some posts...but you will get the main idea.

Regards

Ufopolitics
Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind:Study the science of art. Study the art of science.
Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
―Leonardo da Vinci

Ufopolitics

Quote from: fer123 on June 06, 2022, 09:27:18 AM
Thanks for the reply, very well explaind an clear how the switching works, even without colors well understood.

My pleasure, great that you understood

Quote from: fer123 on June 06, 2022, 09:27:18 AM
Do you think the capture lenz reaction with the diodes is very important? From north side or both?
Thanks alot.
Best for you and yours.
Nope, it is not important at all...we still can achieve greater output without collecting the BEMF...
But, of course, it will be great if we could collect it and reuse it to charge or add to our input...
While at the same time we would be taking off those reverse currents from our electronics or in Pierre case...off his relays.
I have a strong commutator and carbon brushes...which is built to stand the arcing & sparks.

On another note, Pierre had a resistor on a heatsink which gets very hot during operation...I believe this resistor is just for the purpose to keep currents low to charge supercaps without using high amperage (because they are not very low ESR)...however, "the price" is paid with heat losses.

We can dedicate a "second secondary" induced coil (inside and in 90º to main output center coil, so it does not disturb main output Induction Angle) just to rectify it (from AC to DC) and be sent to Input.
Pierre did not do that...and yes, it can be done, typical rotary Generators have this settings (Stator coils just to feed back the Exciter (Rotor) coil(s))...nothing new.

Regards

Ufopolitics
Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind:Study the science of art. Study the art of science.
Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
―Leonardo da Vinci