Bifilar pancake coil overunity experiment

[Void]

I have also spent many hours testing many variations of circuits including along the
general lines of what you are testing here, and trying to draw definite conclusions from
scope measurements of circuits like this can definitely be very tricky sometimes. As an example,
in some cases I have measured phase shifts with my scope between input voltage and current waveforms
that were well over 90 degrees, and if those measurements were taken as 'accurate' without questioning them,
it would indicate significant OU, but the actual average power being delivered to a load does not appear to be
out of the ordinary. Yes, there can be significant capacitive coupling loops in these circuits, depending on the frequency
of operation and the actual circuit config, which can throw off measurements, as well as other factors throwing off measurements,
so the great equalizer here, as always, is what happens when you try to self loop the circuit? This is where the
OU measurements of COP > 1 will typically crumble quickly. Hey, my scope measurements are indicating a COP of 2 !!!
(or whatever), but for some darn reason I can't seem to self-loop the circuit. Sound familiar? Hmm... 

[partzman]

I have also spent many hours testing many variations of circuits including along the
general lines of what you are testing here, and trying to draw definite conclusions from
scope measurements of circuits like this can definitely be very tricky sometimes. As an example,
in some cases I have measured phase shifts with my scope between input voltage and current waveforms
that were well over 90 degrees, and if those measurements were taken as 'accurate' without questioning them,
it would indicate significant OU, but the actual average power being delivered to a load does not appear to be
out of the ordinary. Yes, there can be significant capacitive coupling loops in these circuits, depending on the frequency
of operation and the actual circuit config, which can throw off measurements, as well as other factors throwing off measurements,
so the great equalizer here, as always, is what happens when you try to self loop the circuit? This is where the
OU measurements of COP > 1 will typically crumble quickly. Hey, my scope measurements are indicating a COP of 2 !!!
(or whatever), but for some darn reason I can't seem to self-loop the circuit. Sound familiar? Hmm... 

Let's again assume for a moment that this device is producing excess energy, what specific suggestions would you have for a circuit configuration that would allow looping to prove or disprove the concept?

Anyone?

Pm

[Void]

Let's again assume for a moment that this device is producing excess energy, what specific
suggestions would you have for a circuit configuration that would allow looping to prove or disprove the concept?
Anyone?
Pm

Hi partzman. If the COP being measured is very close to 1 (such as 1.08) then you
probably aren't going to get very far with trying to self-loop of course, but converting the
output to a DC voltage across an electrolytic capacitor (using high speed (ultra fast) diodes to make
the bridge rectifier, if appropriate) is probably the easiest route to go in general. 
P.S. You can get high efficiency step up and step down DC to DC converters on E-Bay that are
quite inexpensive, if you need to shift the output DC voltage up or down to match the input voltage requirement.

[AlienGrey]

Let's see, if we assume for a moment there is a source of excess energy in properly configured pancake coil arrangements and we were to master the technology, perhaps it would perform like the device seen in the video at-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4fp9J_7-JQ&t=1s

Or then again, maybe it is a hoax!

Regards,
Pm

wouldn't you need to cross over one input to the output of the other and then find the frequency of the required phase shift tesla found a special frequency a 90 deg phase shift would produce a much greater output see CIA recently released Tesla papers.

[ayeaye]

Hey, my scope measurements are indicating a COP of 2 !!!
(or whatever), but for some darn reason I can't seem to self-loop the circuit. Sound familiar? Hmm... 

This doesn't matter, this is altogether a different problem. This experiment is about theory, is there overunity in the coil itself. Certainly the overunity may not be enough for self-looping. But it is after we find a circuit that has overunity, a single circuit, It is a matter then to try to increase COP and find ways how to self loop, but as said. that's an entirely different problem altogether.

So you say that you did experiments where you measured COP > 1? Would you share the data? We need one such circuit that anyone else can replicate, just one, no one so far.