A SIMPLE ELECTRIC HEATER, WHICH HAS EFFICIENCY GREATER THAN 1

[George1]

To Gyulasun.
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Hi Gyala,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
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I know that you are a man of good will and we highly appreciate your positive and constructive criticism. Yes, you are absolutely right that precise and numerous tests have to be done in order to prove the validity of any theory. We do not argue about this.
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Thanks a lot for your note that there isn't an urgent necessity to be in a hurry with the proper and adequate shortening of our 800-pages experimental report. The shortening process will take some time. (Besides some of the experiments seem to me not very accurate and as if have to be repeated. Now I am studying hard а textbook of experimental calorimetry (a) because (as mentioned in my previous posts) I am not an expert in experimental calorimetry and (b) because I have to know exactly what happens in these calorimetric experiments, what are the basic methods of experimental calorimetry, what basic devices are used in experimental calorimetry, etc. So I need some time to educate myself in the field of experimental calorimetry and become an expert at some satisfactory level. And, if necessary, to repeat and carry out personally some of the related calorimetric experiments.)
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Yesterday almost all members of our team gather together. We discussed the topic within a period of several hours. It was a very interesting discussion. Various opinions were presented and talked about. A member of our team had a very interesting and reasonable (in my poor opinion) point of view. And here is his line of reasoning.
He said approximately the following.
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a) If we have one true experimental fact, then we have one true experimental fact.
b) If we gather together two true experimental facts, then we will have one true experimental fact.
c) If we gather together three true experimental facts, then we will have one true experimental fact.
d) If we gather together four true experimental facts, then we will have one true experimental fact.     
e) If we gather together n true experimental facts, then we will have one true experimental fact. (Where n is any natural number.)
Therefore we do not need to carry out again n experiments in order to prove the validity of one experiment.
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There is a bunch of six true experimental facts (given below).
1) First Joule's law: Q = I x I x R x t (experimentally proved for both solid and liquid resistors).
2) Ohm's law: V = I x R (experimentally proved for both solid and liquid resistors).
3) Faraday's law of electrolysis: m = z x I x t (experimentally proved).
4) LHV of hydrogen = 120 MJ/kg = 33 kWh/kg (experimentally proved).
5) HHV of hydrogen = 142 MJ/kg = 40 kWh/kg (experimentally proved).
6) Considering the industrial production of hydrogen, and using current best processes for water electrolysis (PEM or alkaline electrolysis) which have a hydrogen-generating efficiency of 70–80%, producing 1 kg of hydrogen (which has a specific energy of 143 MJ/kg or about 40 kWh/kg) requires 50–55 kWh of electricity (experimentally proved).
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If we gather together the last six true experimental facts, then we will have one true experimental fact, which is an efficiency bigger than 1.
Therefore we do not need to carry out again six experiments in order to prove the validity of one experiment.
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I know that you will object to the above point of view of our colleague. But anyway there is a logic in it. According to your requirement we have to carry out again six experiments which have been proving to be true within a period of more than one century. Isn't this an absurd?
Looking forward to your answer.
Best regards,
George 

[George1]

To forest.
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Hi forest.
Thanks a lot for your reply and for the link with the Tesla's article. I would need some time however to understand fully and assimilate entirely this extremely interesting text. I will write to you in the nearest future.
Best regards,
George 

[George1]

To Floor.
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Hi, Floor.
Thanks a lot for your reply.
It's ok. No problem that you haven't locate this more recent topic. Please send it to me if you find it. I will search for it either.
We'll be in touch with you.
Best regards,
George

[gyulasun]

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...   According to your requirement we have to carry out again six experiments which have been proving to be true within a period of more than one century. Isn't this an absurd?
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Hi George,

Simply put: I did not write or imply or suggest to carry out again those 6 experiments, this is a misunderstanding I suppose.

The results should already be included in your 800 page long report.  All you would need to do is to collect relevant data your measurements gave, from which it turns out you have received an efficiency > 1.

The output work done by the burning Hidrogen can be expressed by heating up for instance X amount of water from T1 to T2 temperature, this then could be compared to the input energy needed for electrolyzing a known quantity of liquid (with known start and end temperatures) with a measured amount of DC power during an Y amount of time duration needed for producing the Hidrogen.  I also assume you checked the quantity of the Hidrogen received from the electrolysis during an Y time duration.

Maybe I have left out something also important,  I do not wish to tell you how such an experiment should exactly be done, I just indicate how I think it would be a correct way (and I may have not considered every important issue, I am not an expert in experimental calorimetry either).
One more thing to consider: if there are no MEASURED results, the scientific community will simply not accept claims on efficiency > 1.  It's not only me who would ask for measured results.
You may say for this, you do not care.  Well, you can disregard this of course but then you would need somehow "prove" you are right, by say a device that works with > 1 efficiency as per your claims. And if you have a working device, then somehow its efficiency can be measured, no? 

Gyula

[George1]

Hi Gyula,
Thanks a lot for your interesting and instructive last text. I will consider it carefully and will write to you in the nearest future (after a day or two). I would like to ask a few questions too.
Best regards,
George