polar reversal, ice ages and global warming

[onepower]

Belfior

So you just go on faith? You don't need proof. I think that is called religion. Logical fallacy is to believe something on faith. People that rely on faith do not need to prove anything. That is the whole point of a religion. If then by some miracle you try to, you use your own book to prove it.

Another logical fallacy as a classic strawman argument misrepresenting my argument so it is easier to attack. Obviously my argument is not based on faith but proof published by tens of thousands of the smartest most credible climate scientists. We should also note these scientist use their real names and back up their opinions with real proof unlike these forums.

Once again. The temperature is raising. That is a fact. The sea level is Raising. That is a fact. Is that because humans produce 7% of green house gases? I doubt it. Do we affect weather in some way? For sure, but how can our actions determine the weather or the energy that comes from the Sun?

It's not that difficult to understand Belfior it's called science. If an insulator such as glass can trap or retain heat in the example of a green house then this same scientific principal also applies to this planet. Thus if an insulator such as a green house gasses increases in our atmosphere then we can expect that more heat will be retained... what part of this grade school science do you not understand?.

Has the temperature ever been this high? Yes. Every 100k years before the ice age. This can be checked from the ice core samples. Why IPCC says "highest we have ever measured" is because then you can leave the ice core samples out and claim our factories did it. We were not here "measuring" 800k years ago.

Yes of course however never in the history of this planet to my knowledge has an "animal species" sucked billions of tons of hydrocarbons from the depths of this planet and released these green house gasses into the atmosphere. There were never 7 plus billion beings doing there best to consume everything in sight and destroy this planet in the past to my knowledge.

Magnetic pole reversal might come in 2046 and that is when the shit hits the fan. CIA has known this since 1957 and is the reason why "every dredible climate agency" tells you that CO2 is doing it. Who is going to pay their 25 year mortgages, if the house is gone 2046?

Right... blah blah blah and lets not forget that conspiracy back in 1948 blah blah blah. You know they say the Earth is flat supported by pillars on the backs of an infinite stack of turtles. The intelligent choice is not to argue for or against this kind of mental defect in the ability to reason but to walk away. Obviously I have chosen to ignore this choice, lol.

People are so religious and crazy about the CO2 I am going to start selling "CO2 protection domes for plants" in TV-Shop. Lets see how long your tomatoes stay alive without this "poisonous gas" that gives life

No my friend it is quite the opposite and it is the religious and fanatical who have decided to believe that we are somehow chosen and can supersede natural law. My beliefs are simple to understand, every action has an equal and opposite reaction... do you understand?. Thus this ridiculous notion that we can do whatever we want without any consequence is not only misguided but bat shit crazy.

Do you know what I would like to see?... a duel.
"A duel is an arranged engagement in combat between two people, with matched weapons"

However in this case our combat, our struggle, would be a consensus between two men as towards what is the truth and what is not. I would see it as an actual duel on a platform such as youtube where I would throw down my glove and say dude your so full of shit I don't even know where to begin and I demand retribution. Then one of two things could happen, one you decline like many cowards do or two we go one on one on live video for all the world to see.

Personally I suspect 99% of the population has neither the balls nor the brains to ever agree to such a thing and we all know the reasons as to why this is true. I'm just throwing it out there because I think it's important to understand who we are. I really like and more so respect this gentleman...   https://jordanbpeterson.com/

You have to love this guy in my opinion because he makes no apologies for who he is, I am who I am right or fucking wrong. As he say's ... live with yourself, deal with it, man the fuck up and take some responsibility to give your life some kind of meaning. So my theory on this is not rocket science... stop making excuses as to why your such a fucking loser and start showing us reasons why your not?. Seems pretty self explanatory doesn't it...?. I don't give a shit why you keep failing tell us how all of us can succeed together and move forward.

I just get tired of the ... it wasn't me and I have no fucking idea what to do nonsense. It's 2019 gentlemen and this BS is getting old. Man the fuck up or move on... nuff said.

[F6FLT]

There are facts and an interpretation of the facts.

The increase in temperature is not proof that global warming is anthropogenic.

A certain correlation between temperature and CO2 does not prove that CO2 is the cause of warming, it is rather warming that increases CO2.

An increase in temperature does not mean that we know all the reasons and that we can predict the evolution. The most important greenhouse gas, water vapour, is ignored and the impact of solar variations is underestimated. All previous IPCC predictions have been found to be false by a factor of 2 to 3 five years later.

The fact that there would be a large majority of scientists in favor of the theory of anthropogenic global warming is not relevant (most of them included in the number are not climate experts). Opponents are prevented from expressing their work in the institutions.

The IPCC does not follow the scientific method: they give their final conclusions without verification by independent teams or organizations, and politics and the media spread them with catastrophism, conditioning people.

Global warming is not dangerous, on the contrary, past periods of global warming have always coincided with periods of prosperity for the men.
And all measures to combat CO2 have been shown not to have any influence on the climate, but to cost a lot and therefore create worse problems.

See the recent testimony of climatologist Judith Curry before a US Senate committee: "the cure could be worse than the disease"
https://youtu.be/ZLuSks4xxsA?t=8451

[citfta]

There are facts and an interpretation of the facts.

The increase in temperature is not proof that global warming is anthropogenic.

A certain correlation between temperature and CO2 does not prove that CO2 is the cause of warming, it is rather warming that increases CO2.

An increase in temperature does not mean that we know all the reasons and that we can predict the evolution. The most important greenhouse gas, water vapour, is ignored and the impact of solar variations is underestimated. All previous IPCC predictions have been found to be false by a factor of 2 to 3 five years later.

The fact that there would be a large majority of scientists in favor of the theory of anthropogenic global warming is not relevant (most of them included in the number are not climate experts). Opponents are prevented from expressing their work in the institutions.

The IPCC does not follow the scientific method: they give their final conclusions without verification by independent teams or organizations, and politics and the media spread them with catastrophism, conditioning people.

Global warming is not dangerous, on the contrary, past periods of global warming have always coincided with periods of prosperity for the men.
And all measures to combat CO2 have been shown not to have any influence on the climate, but to cost a lot and therefore create worse problems.

See the recent testimony of climatologist Judith Curry before a US Senate committee: "the cure could be worse than the disease"
https://youtu.be/ZLuSks4xxsA?t=8451

I agree with this 100%.  Rational thinking means you do your own research and study and do not follow the propaganda put out by the politicians and main stream media.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[Newton II]

Every machine we use, motors, generators, transformers, transmission lines, engines etc., and every electrical appliances such as electric stove, TV, computer, cell phone, oven etc., have heat losses and release heat into the atmosphere.  Since heat is a form of energy and it cannot be destroyed,  it heats the atmosphere causing warming of atmospheric in addition to green house effect by gases.   Even the breath we and all animals release, carry heat from the body which also heat the atmosphere.  When world population grows, these activities will be more and atmosphere gets heated up rapidly.   I don't see any point in blaming God or nature for that.

[ramset]

size matters [insulation]
https://spaceweatherarchive.com/2018/10/26/a-new-space-weather-metric/