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Stanley Meyers revisited

Started by Alfang, December 16, 2006, 11:32:06 PM

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dutchy1966

Some stuff here you might want to take notice of, apparently there is something missing with the published Lawton documents (Stanley Meyers demo cell replication).....
It seems like there are high voltage pulses missing from nearly all Meyer replications....

Read it for yourself:

http://my.opera.com/H2earth/blog/show.dml/779891


Technological Development

Over the past week, two inquisitive electrical engineers working with the H2earth Institute have apparently debugged the Meyer Replication document that has circulated on the Internet in PDF since it was compiled for the Practical Guide to Free Energy Devices from the work of U.K. Research Engineer Dave Lawton, in June of 2006.

While several investigators have attempted to replicate the Water Fuel Cell, Mr. Lawton appears to have most reliably succeeded. From the schematics compiled on his behalf for posting, it was anticipated that numerous other validations would soon follow. However, several experimenters have faithfully reproduced the published circuit, delivering the stipulated frequency, voltage, and waveform, to no effect.

We know why. The proper Frequency, Voltage, and Waveform are necessary, yet insufficient preconditions for the Meyer effect to occur. Modern electronic components are deceptively capable; people assume a MOSFET will perform all of the functions of larger, older classes of discrete components. Not so. The Resonant Charging Chokes in Meyer's schematics were not there for decoration. His resonant phenomena are more complex than simply shaking the water apart. There is electrical resonance in the circuit, there is electrical resonance in the water, and there is acoustic resonance in cell itself. There are likely standing wave amplification effects. Any harmonic and phase relationships between these electromagnetic and mechanical oscillations will be multivariant, and take years to fully characterize; fortunately, the WFC can be made to work before the science catches up to the engineering.

The first Lawton replication of the WFC utilized a modified alternator; it introduced the desired effects, and yielded gas production 3x Faradic levels, for the 56 watts of power provided to the cell. Based on this, a solid state schematic was designed, represented in CAD, and published, which would ostensibly offer the same performance as the clunky electromechanical alternator version. But, not so fast! A copper wound, ferrite rod Inductor, incorporated into Mr. Lawton's subsequently constructed solid state circuit (but not into the already published plans), made all the difference. The second Lawton replication, using the solid state circuit, again gave remarkable results.

Working directely with Dave Lawton and a brilliant engineering student in Central Florida who had constructed a beautiful replication of the WFC, the Institute's engineers were able to discover why the UK cell performed, while the [apparently identical] Florida cell yielded only the expected Faradic equivalent gas as it operated, while all of the signal parameters seemed the same. The resonance effects of the Inductor are subtle, yet profound. A "sidewards jitter", thought to be a scope artifact, turned out to indicate the presence of very brief (possibly <75ns), very sharp (possibly >35Kv) high voltage spikes, which Mr. Lawton's venerable analog instrumentation apparently missed due to the lower sampling rate of his occiloscope.


As this is being written, the UK cell is being outfitted with new precision gas flow instrumentation for a new series of test runs, and the Florida cell (already so equipped) is being given its missing Inductor. Within days, they will be operated in tandem, and, it is hoped, their levels of performance synchronized and thoroughly documented. Yet to be examined is the fact that while Meyer's patent contained just the one Resonant Charging Choke, his later Technical Brief showed two of them, one on either side of the cell in the circuit.


Robert



HeairBear

Excellent! I can't wait for the updated documentation.
When I hear of Shoedinger's Cat, I reach for my gun. - Stephen Hawking

kentoot

@Robert
Excellent work, I also feel that the high voltage pulses is quite important in charging the WFC. I think the central issue of the WFC is to be able to accumulate charge and raise the WFC voltage.

From what I've seen in Stan's patent (WO9207861), the 2 inductors on either side of the WFC is actually part of the step-up transformer, they are not standalone inductors. This is because they are also wound on the toroid core of the transformer, they receive the flux from the primary winding, and so they become part of the secondary windings of the transformer.

Please also note that the 2nd inductor on the bottom of the WFC is meant to have variable winding. By looking at how this inductor is wound & connected with the transformer and the WFC, I would say that this inductor is actually working AGAINST the transformer & the top inductor. I would guess this serves as HV pulse damper, so Stan can adjust & tune the HV pulse amplitude. Maybe it's related to the WFC's geometry and conductivity of the water. If the HV pulse amplitude is too high maybe it will cause a spark / current flow across the WFC electrode. So my guess is that the variable inductor on the bottom side is meant for HV amplitude tuning.



HeairBear

heres a cut and paste from the "Meyer's Tech Brief" with all the illustration numbers edited out for easier reading.

Tri - Coil Construction
Resonant Choke Coils are composed of 430F or 430FR inductance stainless steel film coated (hi dielectric value) wire (typically .004 Ga. Or smaller) which are axially (spiralled) Bifilar wound about core bobbin, forming individual spiral-wrap (inner to outer circumference and being equally-length) coils electrically connected in sequencial order to form resistive pickup coil. Primary Coil (typically .030 Ga.) film coated magnet wire is longitudinal wrapped in space relationship on top of and layered bidirectional across spiral-wrap coils to complete bobbin cavity. Secondary pickup coil  is, also, composed of individual spiral wrapped coils (typically .002 Ga. magnet wire) electrically connected in sequential order to form bobbin cavity which is placed on top of and in space relationship to primary coil cavity. Resonant bobbin assembly, primary bobbin assembly, and secondary bobbin
assembly, now, make up and structurally forms voltage intensifier (VIC) coil-assembly when electrical steel core material forms a close-loop magnetic induction pathway centrally through and around (VIC) coil-assembly.

Electromagnetic Interaction
The resultant tri-coil configuration (Inductance core - choke coils - primary coil - secondary coil), now, allows magnetic field coupling to pass through both resonant-coils and secondary coil simultaneously when primary coil is pulsed energized by way of incoming pulse-train. In doing so, magnetic flux-lines  are induced into spiral-wrap coils to produce inductance coupling between each secondary spiral-coils  which are parallel formed to expanding magnetic flux-lines producing step up voltage potential of positive

RE: Water Fuel Injection System Memo WFC 425
Stanley A. Meyer 6-4
electrical intensity (positive voltage potential) by way of inductance / capacitance interaction across
secondary coil-assembly while keeping opposition to electromagnetic build up to a minimum.Magnetic flux-lines being emitted on the opposite side of primary coil induces further increase in positive voltage potential since inductance / capacitance (Cd / DL) interaction is, also, occurring in both resonant charging chokes simultaneously in balance relationship to the same pulse sequent  producing inductance coupling in parallel relationship to expanding field, as before. The resultant Pulsing Sequence allows voltage across Inductance Chokes while current flow lags by 90?. Together, external magnetic field, inductance coupling field, resistive value of stainless steel wire-coil, and the dielectric value (ohmic or resistive value) of water aids and performs amp restriction process while allowing applied voltage amplitude to be electrically transmitted without signal degradation. The resultant dynamic voltage potential, now, performs the Hydrogen Fracturing Process in such a way as to allow particle oscillation to take place as a ''Energy Generator" to further enhance thermal explosive energy-yield.
When I hear of Shoedinger's Cat, I reach for my gun. - Stephen Hawking

Chuck252

I don't have much experience with electronics, but I would like to build this device. How do I go about building a variable charging choke?

I get the part about the ferrite rod, but do I wrap the wire with one coil and then wrap over that with a separate coil?
In this example:

After wrapping the primary coil, do I then wrap the first of 3 choke coils over that? Or should I make a toroid and have them all spaced out?

Thanks for you help.
Chuck