IEC Earth Engine First Magnet motor installed in Las Vegas

[Acca]

So here is the "techo-babble" as to the official explanation of "HOW THE MACHINE WORKS"...

Re-posted...


Flagship Product – The Earth Engine
The Earth Engine uses the rotary motion of a large flywheel mass (4,500 to 6,500 pounds) to induce a spin in a power ring that can produce a powerful magnetic force of up to 30,000 pounds. Think of this force as two magnets with two similar fields (North to North or South to South) "pushing" against one another.
We measure these forces at one-centimeter distance from one "fuel" segment (imbalanced magnet) to the other segment. We use the term fuel to describe our magnetic shapes, instead of the word magnet due to the fact that we imbalance the magnetic force and we do not use the attraction side of the magnetic field.
Let it be understood that IEC fuel is a depleting fuel source. In other words, over a period of time, the magnetic potential (strength) weakens over a period of many years. This magnetic potential is where the kinetic energy is gained in Magnetic Propulsion.
We "push" the large mass by controlling the magnetic field. When the two opposing fuel sources (magnetic fields) driving the flywheel mass are in the correct position, the Engine fires a small electromagnetic charge measuring about 52-watts. This charge allows the opposing fuel sources to "see" each other, and can produce significant force to spin the large flywheel mass. This rotating mass inertia is then transferred via separate magnetic coupling to a generator which produces electrical energy. This power can also be used mechanically. (Source: https://ie.energy/about.html)

[stivep]

Here is my take on it:

This is their advertisement

Innovative, breakthrough technologies in the applied science of magnetism
Product design, development and engineering
Intellectual property and phased plan for patent filings
World class manufacturing and supply chain management
Led by an experienced senior management team, IEC and its flagship technologies are poised to revolutionize and fulfill the growing global demand for energy.

this is reality:

IEC has multiple patentable innovations, but will file patents in the United States and other countries as necessary to protect trade secrets for as long as possible.
These patents will be based on observable intellectual property, and all other IP will be held as trade secrets for as long as is deemed prudent. As of August 2018, IEC has filed two US patent applications as well as three trademark applications.

So they have :
- empty production  room~1800 sq meters (16200 sq ft)  with one manual lathe  maximum $25000 and 3 other pieces on machinery maximum $12000 ( used)
- rental  of   production space  is ~$4700 per month _{( between 2500 and 7800  per month /depends/  in US)}
-no patents and no published  yet patent application.
-trademark protected observable intellectual property
-protected trade secrets
-two  applications that will be for 1.5 year ( if i remember correctly) not accessible to the public

evaluation:
-Flywheel have not been shown under load.
-magnet doesn't give anything out and plays by its own rules as closed in within itself system.
-demagnetization  of the magnet  equals energy spend  to magnetize the domains (- earth magnets are already magnetized but must be formed)
-energy stored in flywheel  equals  energy used at the output.
-this is  America not Russia scam is punishable sooner or later.So closer look must be taken to
grey boarder where corporate rights to form entity and close entity must NOT be associated   with fraud.
This is  also  the statue of limitation of their corporation  and  any other corporation that may join them.
-the first sign of scam  is immediate payments of profits to team /owners in form of payroll in big numbers.
-small  amount of machinery required to make it indicates need for  space 20 times  smaller than showed on video. 
-lack of milling machine  indicates that  none of the devices have been made in shown in  video facility.   
- the owner is  old  and in  this  age it is unlikely that someone starts  manufacturing that takes years to double profit.
  so it is clear that money must come fast and now.
  That entity is NOT YET WELL FINANCED!!!!
  Money from shares if there are shares ( check  Bloomberg  to find out) goes to support early stage of technology.

They say this is no perpetual motion machine:
SO WHAT ENERGY COMES FROM?
They say this is no perpetual overunity  machine:
SO WHAT ADDITIONAL ENERGY COMES FROM?
They say this energy comes from  demagnetization of the magnets  in the  machine:
SHOULD THEY SAY : _{LOSS OF MAGNETIZATION  IN FLYWHEEL MAGNETS IS  AN ADDITION TO OVERALL LOSSES ?}?
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no patents and no certainty of  getting one means that today any buyer can replicate it in small  scale and
40kw divided by 40  = 1kW per 1/40th of mass.
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They  are exactly  in Tariel Kapanadze  , Akula, Ruslan  position.
from the time they (will) sale the first device they will lose any chance  to any patent protection.
the device will be than replicated , sold to others for less and others will replicate it and sale it  for much less.
than the device will become commodity.
That is why Tariel has no buyers .

So their  plan is to get money from "investors" in form of shares.
But any real investor  or shareholder  will have access to public data   public  yearly report of  that corporation.

Wesley

[ramset]

To My knowledge
nothing is for sale ,they just sell electricity ,similar to Rossi business model. Here is where they say the gain comes from [or similar] .
  https://m.phys.org/news/2018-11-defy-19th-century-law-physics.html
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Dr. Jordi Prat-Camps, a research fellow at the University of Sussex, has for the first time demonstrated that the coupling between two magnetic elements can be made extremely asymmetrical. Working with colleagues from the Austrian Academy of Sciences and University of Innsbruck, Dr. Prat-Camps' research rips up the physics rule book by showing it is possible to make one magnet connect to another without the connection happening in the opposite direction. End snip

----------------------------------------so they sell electric not units...no electricity = no income for company.
Again Acca's link to Mark Dansies Revolution Green forum where Member Karl Walsh seems quite familiar with operating MO [in discussion below article at link]  https://revolution-green.com/earth-engine-claimed-3-years-40-kw-mechanical-energy-production-magnets/  I believe Walsh interacts due to Dansie [link above] having offices in Las vegas
TO NOTE: MARK DANSIE IS NOTORIOUS SKEPTIC IN THESE FORUMS. bringing this to his house [Revolution Green forum] is quite bold.

Also they are setting up aquarium demonstration too ,suspended in Lexan running something ..as well as independent 3rd party Lab testing .
and yes .... the real money/income probably will arrive from investor strategy... not selling electricity ...for quite some time.   IMO They should bring it to high electrical cost areas first  [NY/ New England approaches .35 KW Las Vegas commercial rate 8.43 KWH...that is fishy IMO , if your business model is making money on selling electricity ...why start in cheapest part of country first ?  other areas scheduled for units are also in Cheap KWH areas?   odd


also I have mentioned this to Russ from RWG research who is also in Las vegas .... for possible feedback .
////Chet K  PS seems a worldwide press release is coming in April ?
   

[Temporal Visitor]

To My knowledge

TO NOTE: MARK DANSIE IS NOTORIOUS SKEPTIC IN THESE FORUMS. bringing this to his house [Revolution Green forum] is quite bold.

Bold? Up until a few days ago it was listed under BUNK, where it had been previously (for years). Noticed it was changed.

The site is infested with "notorious skeptics" - none of which have any knowledge of WHAT ENERGY IS.

Although perhaps Simon might ... he seems to be quite bright, and very resistant to simple truth.

The skeptic comments on RG are amusing: a favorite is between NGEpro (aka memoryman) and Mr. Walsh who shut him down nicely. LOL

[ramset]

I suppose if you can make money selling electricity to the cheapest KWH markets...then the world is your Oyster regardless the definition ?
I personally like it very much that they are at Dansie's forum .... an "in your face" approach hopefully as transparent as possible when testing a 6000 lb motor which could probably hold 7 million Panasonic [Tesla EV] batteries.
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According to Tesla's own specs, the new Powerpack 2 weighs 1622 kg and has an energy capacity of 210 kWh for a pack level energy density of 130 Wh/kg.