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Two kinds of induction - Henry

Started by nix85, January 07, 2020, 12:58:05 AM

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nix85

@sm0ky2 Altho leakage happens and no transformer is ideal, most of the flux is confined and the question remains, how then is voltage induced in the secondary since small part of the primary flux ''cuts'' it.

DO NOT PRETEND TO KNOW SINCE U DO NOT. You are trying to explain this in convetional terms and that is why you are deemed to fail in the start.

You MUST consider higher orders of energy when dealing with magnetism.

nix85

We can see in the last video about leakage how guy explains flux prefers to loop on itself through the air, rather than go through the core surrounded by aluminum ring.

He clearly understands NOT, that this is very peculiar thing. Why would flux in the core care about a ring that is OUTSIDE of a core. This is the whole point.

Magnetic field is just an effect, ether is the true medium of transmission.

Corton

Quote from: nix85 on January 09, 2020, 12:18:59 AM
He clearly understands NOT, that this is very peculiar thing. Why would flux in the core care about a ring that is OUTSIDE of a core. This is the whole point.

Magnetic field is just an effect, ether is the true medium of transmission.

Not sure if I understand what you are writing, your sentences are fragmented (not trying to be rude). However the ring represents/acts link a single turn secondary producing some negligible Lenz. According to the experiments conducted in the video, magnetic flux is not solely contained in a closed core.

nix85

Quote from: Corton on January 10, 2020, 10:07:28 PM
Not sure if I understand what you are writing, your sentences are fragmented (not trying to be rude). However the ring represents/acts link a single turn secondary producing some negligible Lenz. According to the experiments conducted in the video, magnetic flux is not solely contained in a closed core.

What, are you fragmented  (not trying to be rude either)? My sentences are absolutely clear, you are talking about yourself.

''ring represents/acts LINK a single turn''. Eh

You are being confused and totally missed the point. Flux prefers the high reluctance air path rather than low reluctance path through the iron core 'cause of aluminum ring OUTSIDE the core.

Magluvin

Quote from: nix85 on January 08, 2020, 11:25:06 PM

In any case we can see INDUCTION does happen outside the ferrite core even at the distance like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNOtEDkCSpA
Whoah. Hold you horses..   That is Tinman in that vid.   He shows induction to the top black coil from the toroid coil.  But later in the vid he says the core is a speaker magnet. :o :o :o And then claims he doesnt think the speaker magnets flux has anything to do with it. ::)   It has everything to do with it. Its like a solidstate orbo. The windings on the toroid when not powered up do not affect the magnets field. So running a signal through the toroid winding definitely alters the magnets field and the moving magnets field is causing the induction to the top secondary coil.
Mags