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RANT CAFFE ASYLUM

Started by WhatIsIt, September 06, 2020, 10:09:59 PM

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ramset

Shared with permission of presenter
from here https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3951.msg84490;topicseen#msg84490


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As i already made a similar coil setup as Captainloz uses, i could not resist a replication attempt of Captainloz his setup presented in his video 9: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6X9jQIAVt4"  in which he shows a COP of 2.

His circuit used there is slightly different from earlier ones as he now uses a variable cap to tune L2 for resonance.

As far as i can see his circuit used is shown in the diagram below.

The L2 and L3 coils are special as the inner parts (2/3) are folded back, see his video 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk9uSOdj-hE&t    on his youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Captainloz/videos

My replication can be seen here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLWkVofOCBk

The resulting input / output measurements are in the screenshots below,  some specifics layout in the picture.

Screenshot 1: input 60mW,  screenshot 2: output 30mW for a cop of 0.5

I was using only my FG as input (5V DC square wave @ 30% duty cycle) and i don't think using a MOSFET driven by a FG will result in a higher COP.

Only potential problem i see is the groundloop caused by the FG grounded black lead and the scope ground leads when measuring the output.

But using a battery operated FG did not show a drastic change.

As we have lots of RF showing up in the output, i can imagine it will be hard to make correct measurements especially when using long(er) wiring and higher input voltages.

Non-members can reach me via a PM on Overunity.com.end
Quote ..

Thanks to presenter
also for clarity as per prior post
I am going to be asking for clarity on below Smudge Gain verify post from 2015 shared by Chris .

also I am
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

stivep

RESPONSE#1

Quote from: ramset on September 27, 2020, 09:43:11 AM
This needs understanding ,and explanation [link below]
/../
https://www.youtube.com/user/Captainloz/videos
also member Atti2 here is another person I have great respect for...he asks questions and honestly feels he is seeing something
in his circuit
/../
Thank you Ramset.
Smudge comment is very  educated and valuable.
Excellent English skills  professionalism and deep knowledge.
However logical errors are not  unique to the  bright and  convincing.
It is the level of the audience that often makes them , to eat  garbage and digest it.
_____________________________________

So Smudge  explanation ( confirmation of  Bucking gain)
can be chopped to the individual components  for purpose of analysis.
When looking  at these components of impedance I 'm delighted.
-Wow. this guy knows what he's talking about.

However when Smudge starts to talk about equivalent circuit  that makes me very much disoriented .
Smudge quote:
QuoteWounding made on core with significant  magnetic  viscosity exhibits energy gain

Response to the quoted Smudge wording:
QuoteEnergy storage in a transformer core is an undesired parasitic element.
With a high permeability core material, energy storage is minimal. In an inductor,
the core provides the flux linkage path between the circuit winding and a non-magnetic gap, physically in series with the core.
Virtually all of the energy is stored in the gap. if there is any gap. https://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slup124/slup124.pdf
please don't limit  Magnetic  Viscosity  just with  this:
QuoteThe viscosity of the fluid in a magnetic field is predicted by dimensional analysis to be a function of the ratio of hydrodynamic stress to magnetic stress,
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0021979769902203

------------------------------------------------------------
____________________________________________


So what is viscosity?
Viscosity is: the state of being thick, sticky, and semi-fluid in consistency, due to internal friction.

What is magnetic  viscosity ?
Magnetic Viscosity:

!!!!!!The following article is from The Great Soviet Encyclopedia (1979).
  It  might  be  outdated  or  ideologically  biased.!!!!!!
https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Magnetic+Viscosity
quote:
QuoteThe existence of a time delay between a change in the magnetic field applied to a ferromagnetic
material and the resulting change in magnetic induction which is too great to be explained by the existence of eddy currents.   
(plasma  physics) The effect, possessed by a magnetic
field in the absence of sizable mechanical forces or electric fields, of damping motions
of a conducting fluid perpendicular to the field similar to ordinary viscosity.

I contrast to that I'm giving you ordinary  American Science link
Magnetic Viscosity
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128035818028071

look for more in  PART#2


Wesley

stivep

RESPONSE#2
so yes everything  is nice here  right?
....or maybe not so much?
_______________________________

Well lets go  to other  component of pictured  comment of Smudge posted by EM Junke
as a  proof and confirmation of Bucking gain  of his devices.
Smudge verifies Bucking gain.png (60.57 kB, 769x540
So step  by step :
what is that Bucking gain  about ?

____________________________________________
lets start first from  bucking coil:
1. https://overunity.com/6477/bucking-vs-bifilar-coils-a-question-please/
2.https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/bucking+coil bucking coil
Quote(electromagnetism) A coil connected and positioned in such a way that its magnetic field opposes the magnetic
field of another coil; for example, the hum-bucking coil of an excited-field loudspeaker.
3.https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/b/bucking_coil.aspx
QuoteTypically, there is one transmitter and five to ten pairs of receivers and bucking coils that are balanced to remove direct coupling//..//.
There are trade-offs in any response.




Buck  converter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_converter
QuoteA buck converter is a DC-to-DC power converter which steps down voltage from its input to its output.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/buck-converter
QuoteBuck Converter analysis  20 kHz, Vg=400V In. L=3.5 mH, C=50 µF, and R=30 Ω.


So why NONE OF THE OFFICIAL MONEY MAKING BODIES IN USA NEVER MENTIONED ABOUT
energy gain in bucking coil coming from ....// equivalent circuit analysis?//


I would love to hear from Smudge..
Is this honored British Gentleman
backing, supporting, or confirming phenomena  presented by EMJunke?
or
Is it possible that  Smudge.. respected opinion was  just :
-used and abused ,
-raped
-and defecated at
by 
EMJunke and/or possibly by some of  his Russian team of   
educated in Russia
but not always  well  paid (in Russia) experts, ready to invent/promote/support any kind of
ideas  and/or  making statements ( if any)  for another $50/ mo?
without Smudge even knowing about it?


Note: the true data:
         Russian    average salary    in regions is around    $180/ mo
         Papua New Guinea - Papuasian  earns  in average $190/mo
         African Nigeria  average salary is $168 (only $11 less than in Russia) /mo                   
               
Wesley

Legal Note: all said by me  above and/or in
any comment made by me - is expressing only and/or entirely my personal opinion.

based on my  American Constitutional freedom of  speech and expression
That opinion can be changed, verified and adjusted based on credible factors. 

picowatt

To All,

I would be very surprised if CaptainLoz or EMJ has not, by now, connected the lamp loads directly to the DC power supply.  A very simple test, suggested many deleted pages ago, the outcome of which could have very easily proven or disproven their scope readings.

Perhaps it is the results of those "lamps connected directly to the DC supply" tests that caused EMJ to take his ball and bat and go home...

PW


bistander

Quote from: picowatt on September 27, 2020, 12:33:42 PM
To All,

I would be very surprised if CaptainLoz or EMJ has not, by now, connected the lamp loads directly to the DC power supply.  A very simple test, suggested many deleted pages ago, the outcome of which could have very easily proven or disproven their scope readings.

Perhaps it is the results of those "lamps connected directly to the DC supply" tests that caused EMJ to take his ball and bat and go home...

PW

Hey PW,
I think you've arrived at a reasonable deduction. Some people run and hide when embarrassed. It is likely the case here. Nice goin'.
bi

edit: I forgot there are certain conditions where the patient is incapable of embarrassment.