free energy via electronic means

[SwinG]

First, I forgot to mention that the scopeshot in my last post is from the charger. The charger charges with the shown pattern. I'm not sure of the grid division, and my freind is not used to handling scopes.

@walt
I know it's hard to help, and I'm dead happy for the time you use . Based on my latest tests amd mesurements, I'm convinced that at least my charger is not fitting the concept. I'll go and get another one tomorrow, or next week.

@Stefan
Watched the videos. I know a bit about T. Bearden, but the two videos was unknown to me. He does a desent job in trying to explain what energy from the vacum is all about. Thank
s for the links!
I'll go a get another charger. I'll prefer if I could use an of the shelf charger, before I go into bulding one, or buying special curcuits.

@wattsup
I have made some mesaurements that might satisfie your questions:

12V/220VAC 300W inverter.
10A max electronic charger, with overcharge protection.
14W compact flourocent bulb
100W insadent bulb

      Current (A)   Voltage (V)   Power (W)
Inverter with no load            
Inverter      0,23   12,49   2,87

Charger connected             
Inverter      5,18   12,41   64,28
Charging      3,32   12,45   41,33

14W CF bulb connected            
Inverter      1,31   12,44   16,30

Charger and 14W bulb connected            
Inverter      5,78   12,40   71,67
Charging      3,17   12,42   39,37

100W bulb            
Inverter      9,59   12,3   117,96         

Charger and 100W bulb                     
Inverter      10,2   12,26   125,05         
Charging      1,8   12,3   22,14   22,14      
note: When mesauring the current draw to inverter through the multimeter, the charger amp meter shows 0A. But when putting the inverter cable directly on the battery pole connector, the charger amp meter jumps to ~2A   

In general, the charger behaves strange. And my multimeter is also a bit of a laugh. I don't think the mesurements are that usefull.

[SwinG]

I have made the page with an image updating automatically.
It uses flashplayer, so hopefully we will have no more computer crashes.

http://loosechange.dk/OU/

It updates every 10 seconds.

[hartiberlin]

First, I forgot to mention that the scopeshot in my last post is from the charger. The charger charges with the shown pattern. I'm not sure of the grid division, and my freind is not used to handling scopes.

Yes,it was a strange waveform,
the upper spikes seems to be okay, but why are there the spikes that go below
12 Volts ?

@Stefan
Watched the videos. I know a bit about T. Bearden, but the two videos was unknown to me. He does a desent job in trying to explain what energy from the vacum is all about. Thank
s for the links!

This new video of Bearden is really much better:

http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/

I really like it.
He explains it, how a system can be build, which
works like a heatpump, but uses charges from the environment to
give additional energy  into a battery system and only need low
power for this pumping, so we have a total more power output.
He also explains very nicely the difference between efficiency
and COP.

I'll go a get another charger. I'll prefer if I could use an of the shelf charger, before I go into bulding one, or buying special curcuits.

The best charger for a battery is the one,
that draws in additional free electrons from the surrounding environment !
You have to get additional energy into the battery from the outside environment !

I envision to build a system, where I just use 2 high voltage stepup circuits.
Each circuit is constantly "firing" sparks onto the electrodes of the battery.

If you create positive charged metal piece with more than 1 KVolt voltage and
let it come near a bigger metal plate, then electrons will jump the airgap and
discharge the positive potential.
The big plate has now lost electrons in its metal structure and needs again
electrons to be neutral again.
So free electrons from the surrounding jump now onto the plate and put it again
into neutral equilibrium state.

This effect can be used to charge up each electrode of a battery
seperately.
The "pumping" energy needed to do this can bemade very low power,
but when we make these 2 big plates very big, they can collect many charges
from the environment and put these charges into the battery additionaly,
when the spark jumps from the plate reservoir onto the electrodes
of the batteries.

So again in detail.
We need 2 Voltage stepup systems like these one used for running
fluorescent lights from a 12 Volts battery, like these "modding" driver devices where you normally attach
cold fluorescent lamps onto a 12 Volts PC power supply.
These driver circuits could be used.
They are pretty efficient.
These are 12 Volts to about 1000 Volts DC pulses converter drivers.

You need 2 of them.

One is used is used for the negative electrode of a 12 Volt battery and the otheris used
for the positive electrode of the battery.

You need to put the high voltage positive output of the first driver output to the positive 12 Volt
pole of the battery, so the positive high voltage pulses can jump via a very small airgap
(about 0.1 mm) onto the positive electrode of the battery. A graphite rod is recommended to do this.
The other pole of the first High Voltage driver output you have to connect to a large piece of alufoil
and hang it onto your balcony or somewhere outdoors, where nobody can touch it !
( Be safe and cautious , there is high voltage on it ! Don?t let anybody touch it !
It could kill you.. !)

The same you are doing with the second high Voltage driver circuit, but this time you take
the negative high voltage output of it and put it via a graphite sparkgap onto the negative
pole of the battery.Its positive high voltage output is connected to a second
big alufoil,which will be hung again isolated from the other into the air outdoors !
The 2 alufoils should not touch and should be a few meters away from each other !

So now you have 2 spark gaps running and sparking and each pole of the 12 Volt battery
gets charges "spark-fired" onto it and thus the battery can charge up from all
these charges !

As there is not a closed circuit for these charge collectors, the charges are just collected
from the 2 alufoils and spark-fired onto the battery electrodes.

This way, you only need a small pumping power to run these driver circuits
and can collect massive free charges from the environment to charge up your battery.

It would be good, if you use a 2nd battery first, to supply the power for these 2
driver circuits and switch the batteries , when the charge battery is full.
This way you don?t fry the high voltage driver circuits with their own high voltage pulses.

So this would be one way to build a "electrial heat pump" and
to use the environment to charge up the battery.
We just create with a little pumping power a potential sink, so all
the charges can flow into the battery from the environment.

When I have again more free time I will try something like this.

A higher Voltage will always help to get more charges flowing and
the bigger the airgap distance is, the better it will be.

Regards, Stefan.

[pese]

@all

i remember that i seen circuits like this 6 years ago.
so i find kippper s   motor again.

please look also to this :

http://groups.google.de/groups?q=kippers+motor+not+working+work&hl=de&lr=&sa=X&oi=groups&ct=title

1. and 4. link of  them.

Pese

[ring_theory]

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