Lords of the Ring

[giantkiller]

Here is a very serious question. I am sure this has been asked before. What will you do if you make this thing work? Suddenly after 2 years of sod all the tpu burst into life and runs 4 light bulbs full brightness with nothing more then a pp3 on the input. Its a very serious one because you know that it could change everything on this planet. Its a big as the internal combustion engine.  Billions of people still have no power and millions more live off a car battery. On the flip side you want something for your efforts. I don't think patents would apply here either because there is nothing to copy from. Its like the Microsoft IBM scenario where they sat in a room with a blank bit of paper and made a PC even though it was known roughly how to make one it wasn't copied. (apparently) I don't know even how i would react everyone says "oh yea i will share it" but its more than even winning the lottery. Then there is the risk of MIB popping round. Who says they couldn't be sold or as SM did sell out to the highest bidder. For most inventors its by far the most comfortable route. MIB are happy, world industry not disturbed, and you get 100 MIO to live happy every after. I'm not saying this is the right thing to do but people are basically greedy and thats life.

Bolt!

Thats the first unproductive  post you have made.
Politics does not belong here...GK might disagree in which case I do apolagise.

read the first page of "master of magnetics"

Lindsay

It's all ok. Been down that payoff road. Didn't take it. It would have burned the investors. We got taken over by the big guys. So having said that I can agree with the both of you.
If it is not on everybodys mind it would get there. Nobody is immune to these kinds of thoughts. And the first time the neophyte engages in this game he looses. What a bitter feeling.
I would hope that all could avoid this temptation. But it is a maturing event none the less.  And quite the quandry should you find yourself there.

--giantkiller. Burned, not turned.

[bolt]

Your are right its off topic for this thread so we move right along .... Well no one helping me out here with the precision audio synth we need to make this work. Still looking for nice designs for the 3 frequencies. Then also need some trusted simple mos fet PA output stage to drive the control coils. These as i said need to be DC to HF amps and the control coils will look like hi fi speakers:)

[Mannix]

edit......sorry not worth repeating ....just another bottle rant

United States Patent 5434536 there are a few differences  no?

[giantkiller]

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1872.0;attach=12332
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1872.0;attach=12335

http://people.seas.harvard.edu/~jones/cscie129/nu_lectures/lecture7/heterodyne/heterodyne.html
"? the way was paved for a bright engineer to devise useful circuits to exploit the audion?s potential. That bright engineer was Edwin Howard Armstrong who invented the regenerative amplifier/detector
in 1912 at the tender age of 21.

"?In a 1914 paper titled 'Operating Features of the Audion,' Armstrong published the first correct explanation for how the triode worked, and provided experimental evidence to support his claims. ?He Armstrong went on to develop circuits that continue to dominate communications systems to this day. While a member of the U.S. Army Signal Corps during World War I, Armstrong became involved with the problem of detecting enemy planes from a distance, and pursued the idea of trying to home in on the signals naturally generated by their ignition systems (spark transmitters again).  Unfortunately, little useful radiation was found below about 1MHz, and it was exceedingly difficult with the tubes available at that time to get much amplification above that frequency. ? so Armstrong had
his work cut out for him.  He solved the problem by employing a principle originally used by Poulsen and later elucidated by Fessenden.

"?Armstrong decided to employ Fessenden?s heterodyne principle in a different way. Rather than using it to demodulate CW directly, he used the heterodyne method to convert an incoming high frequency RF signal into one at a lower frequency, where high gain and selectivity could be obtained with relative ease. This signal, known as the intermediate frequency (IF), was then demodulated after much filtering and amplification at the IF had been achieved. The receiver could easily possess enough sensitivity so that the limiting factor was actually atmospheric noise (which is quite large in the AM broadcast band).  Furthermore, a single tuning control was made possible, since the IF amplifier works at a fixed frequency."

heterodyne: 1. To generate new frequencies by mixing two or more signals in a nonlinear device such as a vacuum tube, transistor, or diode mixer. (188) Note: A superheterodyne receiver converts any selected incoming frequency by heterodyne action to a common intermediate frequency where amplification and selectivity (filtering) are provided. 2. A frequency produced by mixing two or more signals in a nonlinear device. (188)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheterodyne_receiver

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~jcgl/Scots_Guide/RadCom/part3/page1.html

So we power the coils (opposing metal detectors) using 2 blocking oscillators with cross coupled feedback (the feedback for one connects to the read circuit for the other helmholtz) in a Superheterodyne configuration. This looks just like the 2 transistor free running flip-flop.
The Turbo coil has 2 rings, the sm17 has 2 rings, the GK4 has 2 rings. The difference is the feedbacks / pickups / microphones are different.

The 3rd freq is generated. This is the power stroke. Nice work, gentlemen.

Gentlemen, Start your coils!

--giantkiller. It is a good day to fly.

[bolt]

At last my idea of the sine wave is beginning to take hold. Its ticks all the right boxes to make this work. SM already said this is very nearly a radio receiver tuned into the earths mag field. When you can produce a coil which looks like his vids, constructed to his description, starts and stops softly, uses 3 coils, 3 frequencies of PURITY then we are heading in the right direction.

You have to remember SM is not misleading us but he is describing his circuit without damaging the patent protection. If i described to you a 4 stroke 4 cyclinder petrol engine and that you have never seen one before but i said something like "There are 4 tubes with a device on top to provide ignition to the mixture, there are valves and controls to control the incoming and outgoing gases and there are mechanical levers to provide a rotary output" So you see im not misleading you and nor is SM but why would you build a 1 tube device when i said 4 already then replace the ignition device with a blow torch.  It appears to me people glance at the specs and do something completely different to what has been described and thats why the TPU is still a pipe dream on this website and i have only been looking at this now for a week yet others have spent  years doing R and D!!

Am I being very negative? NO this is a constructive comment becuase 90% of the stuff i read on here is hogwash and ticks no boxes that SM has very nicely described to us. Please keep thinking of ideas but make sure they tie up with the description and could meet the test results shown to us in the videos.