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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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turbo

Quote from: Sauron on May 14, 2007, 04:57:54 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/HEATHKIT-SINE-SQUARE-GENERATOR-MODEL-1G-82-12AX7-TUBE_W0QQitemZ260117921523QQihZ016QQcategoryZ3284QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

tubes INCLUDE A  12AX7  SIDE D GETTER  ::)


hi i placed a bid on this, but now i think of it we have a 50Hz 230 volt grid over here.
i don't know if i will be able to use it.
i am looking for some more old tube generators maybe i can use a transformer to feed them  :)
Turbo.

gn0stik

Well, I'm broke Marco, or I'd take it off your hands. I blew my load on the others. Also, I still have to get my wife a BDay present soon. So.... Little light on fundage.

But if it pains you, you cans always just ship it to my house.

:)

innovation_station

finaly gk i can say that i think im there

how about 3 6 9 huh!!

now what if 3 segments and every time we pluse 2 of the  3 it makes the collector and the other control ring at the same time so no matter what combonition we use we end up with the same and if all are the same mass they will all ring at the same freq so our controls should be 3 6 or 9 x the collector or mabe 1 of each  if you pluse 3 and 6 9 will ring and if you pluse  9 will 3 and 6 ring  am i losing it now?? more thoughts tommorow if i dont lose the train along the way

is

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

turbo

Quote from: gn0stik on May 15, 2007, 01:22:40 AM
Well, I'm broke Marco, or I'd take it off your hands. I blew my load on the others. Also, I still have to get my wife a BDay present soon. So.... Little light on fundage.

But if it pains you, you cans always just ship it to my house.

:)

hi Rich do you mean you blew your load on the others or you blew the others on the load?
because that's what i am affraid of when the tpu starts to kick back.
it will blow any properly unprotected piece of SS circuitry into SS heaven...
tubes can handle much more junk currents so i decided to go and follow the REAL road.
Turbo.



gn0stik

Quote from: giantkiller on May 15, 2007, 12:18:23 AM
Due to one huge group think the following results were arrived at.
The GK4 exhibits its phenominal effects by executing phase cancellation by mixing different frequencies. This stops the pulse before it gets to the end of the wire at an incredible speed.

Tubes enable a better level of control due to lower drift. The 555s are sloppy. The drift will cause random stoppage i.e dangerous waves.
The external magfield aligns the electrons and then the excitation can regulate the action of the electron for massive re.
Throw a stone into white water and you still see white water. Throw a stone into calm water and check out the waves.

A big Thank You goes out to Otto, Gnosis, JDO300, Rosphere, Cavetronics and myself included. This was a big hitter. It's out of the park.

So take a 3 segment ring and drive each segment with a different frequency. Can you see the massive phase cancellation going on in the middle collector?

--giantkiller. Are we there yet?

That was a great session buddy. My juices are flowing like crazy now. I'm a little scared of what will happen if I hook up three SS gennies to a ring though. I guess I'll have time to think about it, as I have to wind one first. So depending on configuration (gk4) style, what we get, is "virtual shorts" which create moments of phase cancellation.

Ok, for those that were not there, just so the coming days do not confuse people as I was this last couple of days, was this.

As you know. GK had a "holy crap" moment with his GK4 a while back and playing with his stun guns. Boys and thier toys.  ::)

Anyway, he basically created an EM bomb, rockets fell from the sky, bones vibrated as they reached resonance with his TPU, and he felt the skin effect, on his actual SKIN... Yikes!

So, to break it down, we have to go back a ways. Going back to the source has a tendency to clear the fog a bit. Grumpy, you had a part in this, whether you know it or not. You posted some quotes from SM about a simple piece of wire and a voltage source. Does everyone remember the jumper cable experiment? Take a jumper cable, short the leads at one end, and hook pos up to the battery an tap neg, and watch what happens? Heck, I'm sure everyone here has done it several times. Oooo It jumped. Neato. Right? Well, it is the key. SM said that all he does is this wire and voltage source several thousand times a second. Mini Jumper cable experiments.

So then Cavetronics posted something about shorting the secondary in a transformer and watching the copper kick back. Things started to pop then.

Now go back to where he talks about multiple currents moving in two directions down the same wire, turbo brought this up earlier. We've got polarities moving through those wires with the current don't we? Well what happens when the Positive polarity of one current passes the negative polarity of another current in the SAME WIRE? Virtual short. Just like the jumper cable. However since they are passing charges, it only occurs for an instant in time. Now what are we also doing here? In the process of shorting we're preventing the current from reaching the end of the wire, causing HUGE RE bursts.

So, why tubes? Tubes work in pico seconds, orders of magnitude faster than even the fastest SS devices which work in micro seconds or nano seconds. SM said SS was slow, and they are in comparison. Imagine thousands of these virtual shorts and the resulting energy spikes occuring per second. Now throw those in a field of radiant high frequency interference, and see how fast they work with all that "hash" in the circuit.

Folks who were there, please help me keep inside the lines here, and please fill in any blanks I've missed.

Also, understand, this has not been tested since we had the Eureka moment. GK performed the test months ago,  and it scared the pellets out of him, his gk4 has been sitting on the shelf till he could understand what it was.

So, we've thrown our heads together and come up with what seems to make sense in light of what we've seen, and what we know from what people have done here, and SM/Mannix's words.

Mannix, please pass this stuff on for review.

Regards, Rich