Lords of the Ring

[chrisC]

Hi Turbo:

Much appreciate the pdf records between SM and Lindsay. I have never read the entire transcripts until now. Wow! There's a lot of stuff in there and I am beginning to put the pieces together and starting to understand the arguments in SM's tidbits!

Thank you again for keeping great records!
Regards

Chris

[kames]

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Also while you fiddle with this, remember what Mr. Mark told us way back when:

"The very FIRST example I gave you was that;
It is common scientific knowledge that if you have a piece of wire and first run electricity through it you will have a small kick when first energized.
The kick is universally attributed to the earth's magnetic field.
OK the point is; YOU CAN GET SOME ENERGY OUT OF THE EARTH!
Next point; YOU CAN DO SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE WITH A WIRE TO SHOW THIS.
Next point; YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU CAN GET MORE OUT OF A PIECE OF WIRE THEN YOU PUT IN TO IT.
WE are not talking about a coil or a transformer or anything developing a primary to secondary flux.
We are just talking about a straight piece of wire, some electrons and a method of measuring what comes out of it."

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SO maybe we need to stop building TPUs and start playing more with pieces of wires and kicks just like he said. Thats what I have been doing and so far I haven't been disappointed...

God Bless,
Jason O

@Jdo300

A thick piece of wire is suspended on thin wire and pulsed with DC. I used 5 Watt resistor (30 Ohm and 100 Ohm) to limit the current from a 12V battery and avoid any ?ringing?. The wire is placed in front of a permanent magnet and the direction of the current is chosen in the way that the wire repel from the magnet. If it attracts, sensitivity is lower but still works, just a problem of the simple mechanical set up. I tested it with 555 timer and a mechanical switch, the result is the same.
What should happen if there is no additional energy generated?
What should happen if there is additional energy generated?

Watch the wire movement. What do you see?

Kames.

[Jdo300]

Hi Kames,

Congratulations, you have just demonstrated the concept of the electric motor  .

No really, you don't even need a magnet to see the kick in the wires. but you will need a scope or a current probe (or a scope with a current probe) on the wire to see it. the kick occurs the instant that you connect the wires. If you get it on your scope screen, you can look at the waveform and determine how much power there is going through the wire.

God Bless,
Jason O

[kames]

Hi Kames,

Congratulations, you have just demonstrated the concept of the electric motor  .

No really, you don't even need a magnet to see the kick in the wires. but you will need a scope or a current probe (or a scope with a current probe) on the wire to see it. the kick occurs the instant that you connect the wires. If you get it on your scope screen, you can look at the waveform and determine how much power there is going through the wire.

God Bless,
Jason O

Hi Jdo300,

Correct. You don't need a magnet to reinvent a motor. It is an interaction to show something more than normally expected. You won?t see any current ?kick? in the scope, at least at the level of a visual effect.

Added:
I performed it a long time ago and the picture is old. Only a few days ago I managed to convince one of my friends, professor in physics, to see it and explain something. When I showed it to him, maybe 10 times, he didn?t see anything. Then I took his one finger and said to hold ?here?, then another finger, and hold ?there?. Why are those two points not the same, almost 30% difference? He couldn?t explain but confirmed that it looked more than strange. My scope didn?t show any anomaly in the current.


Kames.

[turbo]

Hi Turbo:

Much appreciate the pdf records between SM and Lindsay. I have never read the entire transcripts until now. Wow! There's a lot of stuff in there and I am beginning to put the pieces together and starting to understand the arguments in SM's tidbits!

Thank you again for keeping great records!
Regards

Chris

Hi

there is no need to thank me,

We must thank Steven Mark, and he is one of the most brilliant mans i have ever seen.

Offcource we also need to thank Lindsay Mannix for bringing this all up otherwise pherhaps we would never had known about it.
i would also like to thank all of those who are working hard on the project.
And offcource also many thanks to the moderators of all the boards.
Turbo