Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?

[bistander]

Arago's disk is the progenitor of the asynchronous machine and some varieties of the electric coupling, but I was talking about the Joule experience. that's what I'm focusing on now.

Now to consider the problems in asynchronous machines makes no sense. because readers. who are here are not yet ripe for perception.

Now people continue their search in the fading trend of sparks and high voltage.

At this point it will be difficult for me to jump from one topic to another, because things are not so simple in asynchronous machines. To look deeply and fundamentally at the problem - I can explain in short words, but, the audience here will not digest it.

It can strike a blow to Bedini's theory and not only...It takes time to absorb the information.

Hi,
Please define or explain in short what you mean by:

Joule experience.

problems in asynchronous machines.

Bedini's theory.

Then you say:

"not yet ripe for perception."

" the audience here will not digest it"

What say you get on topic and show substance in overunity system that works? We can handle perception and digestion. Just make the presentation already.
bi

[Ilya Tsimbaluk]

Greetings. The question related to maturation is not about critiquing your ability as an audience to perceive. The question is. to approach one topic in which I have many more questions through the description of another. It is a question of consistency of presentation.

If we're talking about the Joule experiment, we're going to have to look at complex fundamental things. that are already worth changing, in case the paradigm is already obsolete. But this has to be done experimentally. Which I actually tried to do.

If we talk about the paradigm that Meyer, Joule, Helmholtz pursued in the notion that one energy can flow into another and further literal perception of processes, then this perception and representation is already a relic of the past.

[Ilya Tsimbaluk]

To understand the difference in the concepts of energy, we have to go back not only to the time of Umow Poynting and Heaviside, but also to the time of Newton, who made quite reasonable observations.

If we go back to the time of Umov, who first began to put forward the theory of the movement of energy in space through mechanics, and then Poynting and Heaviside, who had already begun to converge on the idea that energy is electrical distributed in a vacuum and by the way not through notions of electrons, we can say that these are two different kinds of energy. And then I got an idea that Tom Bearden had expressed concerning. In this case, he was trying to express the idea that the mechanical energy on the shaft is not the flow of energy into the wires. because the energy. which occurs in the wires comes from the physical vacuum and propagates in the physical vacuum where the wires act as a kind of waveguide through which the Electro-Magnetic energy propagates.

Hence the conclusion that in an electric motor the energy goes in parallel. That is, in the electric generator and the electric motor energy appears through the Poynting theorem. the shaft in the generator is needed only for the appearance of a rotating magnetic field...

The causal connection between mechanical and electrical energy is fundamentally wrong. And most likely the reason is in the psychology and attitudes of the Western world, which could not perceive that something else could exist besides the physical body. or rather this idea appeared. it was called Aether. But even here it turned out to be not so simple.

the task of scientists in the Western world is to eliminate everything that is associated with sensory or intuitive perception, forcing it all to be crossed out and leave only the external observable shell of the observable. For example, this can be compared to a monkey trying to get a banana out of a jar.

It is difficult for her to grasp. at the expense of her brain. which tends through focus to abstract from the outside world and the totality of other processes in order to free her hand, while there is a hunter nearby. able to understand that the monkey in view of its limitations cannot make her understand that it has trapped itself...

Hence the Hindus appear to the English as barbarians, savage and uneducated. while their perceptions are ahead of their time.

[bistander]

To understand the difference in the concepts of energy, we have to go back not only to the time of Umow Poynting and Heaviside, but also to the time of Newton, who made quite reasonable observations.

If we go back to the time of Umov, who first began to put forward the theory of the movement of energy in space through mechanics, and then Poynting and Heaviside, who had already begun to converge on the idea that energy is electrical distributed in a vacuum and by the way not through notions of electrons, we can say that these are two different kinds of energy. And then I got an idea that Tom Bearden had expressed concerning. In this case, he was trying to express the idea that the mechanical energy on the shaft is not the flow of energy into the wires. because the energy. which occurs in the wires comes from the physical vacuum and propagates in the physical vacuum where the wires act as a kind of waveguide through which the Electro-Magnetic energy propagates.

Hence the conclusion that in an electric motor the energy goes in parallel. That is, in the electric generator and the electric motor energy appears through the Poynting theorem. the shaft in the generator is needed only for the appearance of a rotating magnetic field...

The causal connection between mechanical and electrical energy is fundamentally wrong. And most likely the reason is in the psychology and attitudes of the Western world, which could not perceive that something else could exist besides the physical body. or rather this idea appeared. it was called Aether. But even here it turned out to be not so simple.

the task of scientists in the Western world is to eliminate everything that is associated with sensory or intuitive perception, forcing it all to be crossed out and leave only the external observable shell of the observable. For example, this can be compared to a monkey trying to get a banana out of a jar.

It is difficult for her to grasp. at the expense of her brain. which tends through focus to abstract from the outside world and the totality of other processes in order to free her hand, while there is a hunter nearby. able to understand that the monkey in view of its limitations cannot make her understand that it has trapped itself...

Hence the Hindus appear to the English as barbarians, savage and uneducated. while their perceptions are ahead of their time.

...Newton, who made quite reasonable observations.

...can be compared to a monkey trying to get a banana out of a jar.

Give credit where credit is due. I understand now.
Thanks.
bi

[Ilya Tsimbaluk]

Electric generator or what would happen if we were born in Space
Greetings friends, we are now looking at a very specific thing related to an experiment in which conditional da bodies of mass m1 m2 interact with each other by means of the Lorentz force or magnetic field.
If you do a mental experiment
A mental experiment
Let's imagine that we have a closed coil at rest in the Cosmos. a magnet flies by. As it flies by, it induces an EMF and because the winding is closed, it induces a current and a magnetic field. Accordingly, this field is called H or magnetic field strength, hence the interaction force, which is called the Lorentz force Fl.
Due to this force now between a magnet of mass m1 and a coil of mass m2
The force interaction between the coil and the magnet obeys Newton's law. The force acting on the coil from the side of the magnet is the counteracting force F=-F and vice versa.
Hence, the coil, which was at rest, begins to come to a state of motion and acquires kinetic energy, i.e. the body m1 gives the body m2 impulse and kinetic energy.
due to this the body m2 or the coil begins to accelerate, and the magnet or the body m1 begins to decelerate


In other words, we can say that the bodies begin to exchange kinetic energy, where this energy has a mechanical character.
As current is generated in the closed winding, part of the energy will be dissipated as heat in the active resistance, and part of the energy will be stored in the winding inductance. When the winding unwinds, the stored energy begins to be discharged into the capacitor and turns into potential energy E=CU^2/2
In my experiment called the pendulum, the magnets were driven by a weight with gravitational force acting on it, and the work was measured by the formula E = mgh
And the work was measured by measuring the height to which the weight was lowered A = E1-E2


The experiment itself resembled a modernized Joule experiment to convince us that Joule himself had made some inaccuracies in his experiment. And it probably makes sense to talk about that.
Let's imagine. what would happen if we went into space and tried to spin an oscillator whose stator is free in Space?
The stator will begin to accelerate, just as we would if we started spinning the knob of that generator. hence the question - what would happen if we did the Joule experiment in Space?
To make it more convincing, on the glass that Joule had on the support inside we make paddles?
The water will start to move, just as we will start to move. If we place the paddles, the water will begin to interact with the paddles and the beaker itself will begin to accelerate. It will be a reciprocal process.
We, like the glass and the water, will be gyroscopes.
We will both be gyroscopes in which kinetic energy is stored. will heat be generated?
What if instead of water there is a magnetic field and the above magnetic interaction?
As I wrote here https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/msg578443/#msg578443
Or maybe I did not make it very clear, some of the energy due to inelastic interactions will still cause some mechanical losses when communicating kinetic (mechanical) energy and most likely the same way losses occur when charging a capacitor through a resistor.
But when energy is communicated through the magnetic field, the energy between the rotors (or stator and rotor) of the generator will be transmitted without losses and with the release of heat, i.e. the transfer will be at the speed of light and relatively ideal. That is, the rotor through the magnetic field will interact with the same force on the stator (rotor) as the stator on the rotor. i.e. not only will we have a 100% lossless exchange of kinetic energy between the bodies, but the generator circuit will also produce electrical energy. 
Hence the question - so why do we, when we turn the knob of the generator, expend mechanical or kinetic energy?
It so happens that we live under the conditions of Earth gravity and we have a support in the form of the Earth. the mass of the Earth. as well as its movement in Space has huge values. So having established. (as Faraday did) the stator on the support - in our paradigm still lives the notion that we are doing work to obtain electrical energy. A= E.
But why did we forget that there is a counterbalanced force acting on the side of the support to keep the stator from turning, which in mechanics is called the REACTION of the support force?
Now the question is, if the monkey grabbed the banana, isn't that because his limited view of the universe is limited to the banana?