Build 2

[Johnsmith]

 This link shows how torque is generated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-3MqrU8bTg
  This link is to a test with 4 weight wheels and 8 total weights on the wheel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkdhPM-hMdQ

And today when moving everything around, I accidentally knocked my computer over.
For it to break that easily kind of shows that it was old. Since it has an SSDI hard drive,
I'm hoping that is okay. I'm now using an old All In One. I guess next will be a new tower.
As for building, I'm going to put that on hold for a while. There are a couple of reasons for this.
I'll need to modify my current build to try roller bearings. The bearings I am using are spherical
bearings. Might make a difference. Also, I can add more weight onto the weight wheels and
other locations to see if it's ability to rotate faster happens.
And with what I've shown, the bearings might need more lubricant. Basically it is where fine
tuning it will be the best use of my time. And since I need to develop a catch and release
mechanism that will release the line retracting the weight that's to the left of the axle, I've
already started on a couple of designs.
At the same time, for the work that I've put into it, I deserve a break from it. Then I'll realize
that there's not much left to do as far as what steps I need to take. That helps to simplify things.

p.s., you guys ever think that someone might show something that could actually work? And if
my build works, then when people say it isn't possible, it has been since Bessler's time.

@thx4, you and Robinhood46 can consider this work. I've done a lot of math over they years and now write
my own spreadsheets. I am an asshole that way. Math can point the way and now that it has for me, I'll
just do some trial and error (more research and development) to see what happens.
I did see your post and Robinhood can consider the work that I'm showing. As for me, I do like my most recent efforts.
I just need to recover from having done it for now. It is different.

p.s.s., Bessler did say 60 rpm. Have any of you seen a motion like this before? It was said that some of his wheels needed a push.
This could be one such wheel. This is what pursuing an idea requires. And understanding of each step. This is how goals are realized.

[kolbacict]

In a way the King in the video is like a group of people who controlled this forum and besslerwheel.com.

Well.And it came to my mind that the boy
put the king in such conditions that he would say this, or say differently, a hopeless situation.
Unstable position. No balance. No way to catch the balance.  Like the Bessler wheel, in order
for it to turn, it does not have to find a point of equilibrium. This movie was not just offtopic.
Why does it work with information but not in the physical world ? 

[Johnsmith]

Well.And it came to my mind that the boy
put the king in such conditions that he would say this, or say differently, a hopeless situation.
Unstable position. No balance. No way to catch the balance.  Like the Bessler wheel, in order
for it to turn, it does not have to find a point of equilibrium. This movie was not just offtopic.
Why does it work with information but not in the physical world ? 

It is premature to say it can't work when the 2nd video showed it might. Bessler had one wheel which
needed a push to get it rotating. This is where being familiar with what Bessler wrote or what witnesses
described is helpful to remember.
What people need to consider when watching both videos is f = ma. Newton published his book
En Principia when Bessler was 7 years old. It is possible that Bessler was familiar with it because Bessler
was aware of Gottfried Leibniz. Liebniz and Newton co-invented calculus. So Bessler was probably aware
of both the math and science of his day.
This is where when I am ready I can go to my local library and use their computer to find out the frame
rate at which each video turned. Then I'll know if f = ma describes the motion of both tests. That would
be the next logical step.

 

[Johnsmith]

Well.And it came to my mind that the boy
put the king in such conditions that he would say this, or say differently, a hopeless situation.
Unstable position. No balance. No way to catch the balance.  Like the Bessler wheel, in order
for it to turn, it does not have to find a point of equilibrium. This movie was not just offtopic.
Why does it work with information but not in the physical world ? 

  Your children's story is off topic. It explained why the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 was considered as being necessary.
And as I said, it might work as it is if I finish the build. Watch it at the 1:30 time, with a little moment before the level of
the axle the wheel is stopped by the retraction line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkdhPM-hMdQ

  I will consider that you do not understand how to develop an idea. With using 2 weight wheels to see how much torque
is generated, I can compare that f = ma with 8 weights. The f would be the torque generated by an overbalanced weight
wheel. Then does mass x acceleration of the 6 other weight wheels agrees with what 2 weight wheels caused?
If so then I can add more weight to 2 weight wheels and then do another acceleration/torque test. If that accelerates
faster, then when adding 6 more weights, how fast would the same relationship allow for? It is possible that because the
weight of the weight wheels would all have the same ratio, there might be no increase in how quickly the wheel rotates.
Since I am using spherical bearings, will roller bearings have less resistance? And that is what I should find out next. As
you can tell, a spherical bearing has a lot of surface area. That might create more resistance than a roller bearing would.

[kolbacict]

Your children's story is off topic. It explained why the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 was necessary.The government then could share the wealth of the country with the people. These guys probably don't know that it was about justifying communism.

I agree. There is such a moment.  But I would not focus on this. I meant something else.
Mind games, resourcefulness and logic. And i have saw in this some indirect connection
with Bessler's self-running wheel.

I think you should understand the principles that I am using but you know nothing of them.

You're right. I don't understand how this can work.
But I understand that I have to do something. This or other.
I still think that the electrical part should be added to this circuit.
As a carrier of energy from one part of the device to another. Bypassing gravity...