Building an OU Motor/Generator combination

[BorisKrabow]

Hi ,   These are interesting tests!
            If, when the generator is running, bring the magnet closer to the coil different things can happen .
When the coil core is saturated with a magnetic field  coil core stops working  ( remagnetize ) . this coil becomes an air coil. The electric current may increase or decrease in this case. I have observed similar phenomena many times. As a rule, when the current consumption decreases, the received energy also decreases.
            If a decrease in current is accompanied by an increase in revolutions and the energy received exceeds the energy spent, then this is a sign of Reverse Lenz Technologies . this can happen under the following conditions.
           If the magnetic field in the coil increases as it approaches the magnet  and decreases with distance from the magnet , then Lenz's rule applies.
           If the opposite happens. If, when the coil approaches the magnet  the field in the coil will decrease ,  and as you move away from the magnet, the field will increase . then with a certain arrangement of the poles of the magnets  . The properties of the coil will be reversed . This is Reverse Lenz Technology.

[Jimboot]

Hi David, you're an annoying chap    I was just about to tear down a pulse motor when Chet pointed me at your post. I just lost 3 hours but learned a lot. I'd seen the effect before but did not understand it and I'd forgotten about it. I think it was when I worked n the Orbos. Anyway I have replicated your results on my bench tonight. Spinning a 3kg flywheel at over 200rpm with two generator coils lighting LEDs, current draw on my battery was less than 5ma. My rotor all N facing. Drive coil was in repulsion (n) so I had a n attached to the core. Gen coils had s facing pms. I'm using an ossie motor circuit with two reeds.


I'll now build a new design/architecture with some bifilar gen coils. Thanks for sharing.

[MWestland]

Boris,
Thanks for the explanation!. I just know it works and I can take advantage of it.

Jimboot. Glad to see you had success with this. There are lots of things we can learn from this little setup.

Another thing to consider. In Tesla's time, and even today (I have seen it in MY1016 motors I have torn apart) one method of reducing or eliminating the self induction in a motor coil was to put a capacitor across the coil. Because the self induction fills the capacitor BEFORE it fills the coil, the negative EFFECT of self induction was reduced or eliminated. It increases the efficiency of the motor. The problem with motor coils is that the electricity applied goes up and down, as does motor speed, so it is a hit or miss proposition and only works efficiently at a certain speed, usually the rated speed of the motor, so at all other speeds it is ineffective.

Now if we apply this concept to a generator, we can build a coil of our choosing. It can have the number of winds we want, and the length of wire we choose. We can build a rotor with a set number of magnets of our choosing and a specific diameter. We can establish a set RPM at which we will turn that rotor with a prime mover. And at THAT frequency, with THAT core material, with a coil of THAT capacitance, we can figure out WHAT size capacitor to go across the coil. If the load is NOT connected to the coil until the correct RPM is reached, the capacitor will give us the increased capacitance required for capacitive reactance and inductive reactance of the coils to CANCEL each other out, and Lenz will not effect the prime mover when the coil is put under load. THIS IS NOT AN EASY PROCESS, and would take the work of a few people. Bob French and I were able to do it with a small coil and a small rotor, which is why I brought this little table top model here. If we were to get a group of folks to work on it, the solution could be worked out in a short time and we could move on to LARGER rotors and LARGER coils. But for a group to work on it, they all have to have everything EXACTLY the same, and that's hard to do on these forums! Everybody (including me!) is working with whatever crap they have on hand and then wonders why their "replication" doesn't work.

[MWestland]

Boris,
I had a thought. I KNOW you can affect the Lenz reaction in a number of ways. Change the length of the core material, its composition, etc. Increase the capacitance of the wire. Change rotor speed.

What if the magnets on the back of the core are ATTRACTING the approaching rotor magnet with their magnetic field, and then slowing down the ability of the wire to create the magnetic field that repels the approaching magnet. In other words, the NEW magnetic field to create the electromagnet must first neutralize the EXISTING magnetic field of the opposite polarity in the core before it can create the electromagnet with the OPPOSITE polarity to repel the approaching magnet. This sounds like what you were saying in your very last "If" statement. Sometimes I have to think about things for days before the meaning becomes clear to me. And it usually happens in the middle of the night.

[Jimboot]

Turning by hand as my pm approaches my em with the biased core of the same polarity it is repelled until it gets close enough and then attracted. The same as when you have 2 pm same pole facing and you can stick them together with a small piece of steel. In previous experiments https://youtu.be/4OSXbG2BmUw when we transition from repulsion to attraction I thought there was a flipping of domains. Now I think that is not the case but there is still a charge generated as the field changes in the inductor. Mmmm this will mess with my head. More testing tonight.