Just another Don Smith thread

[hope-hope]

Hello whitelightningwizard

can you explain the principle of working ? a schematic maybe ..


regards

[nix85]

no matter wot I say it will prove ur point. i could show u device running with meters and it will serve ur point somehow.

What are you talking about, i am not denying your replica works.

well Don was rich from oil industry so he had the money to blow on MetGlas and Terfenol D and the like.

I stated money and time invested so u know am not a novice myself.

I know Don was rich from his geological work for fossil fuel cabal so it was easy for him to play with exotic materials. Zila also was/is wealthy since she said "just cause i am rich does not mean others are" and that's why she wanted to help others do it with cheap parts. Thankfully cheap parts is all we need. Rest assured all those Russians replicating Don with success stivep1 shared on his channel are poor as f. Correct Knowledge (VIDYA in Sanskrit) is ALL or maybe they just "got lucky".

simple thing is I got it to work and u don't yet -- so who listen to intuition better?

You got it to work after 7 years and 350,000$ dollars and i (altho i been studying Don for years), as i said, have been actually experimenting with it for a very short time and have invested very very little money compared to you yet (without making predictions cause they usually backfire) i feel i am almost there, so, who listens to intuition better?

like u I spent all time in my head but only when I got out of head and work it practically on the bench did I get success.

I don't spend all the time in my head, i put hard work into assembling all this not to mention find all the parts, now with scalar coil added etc it's a matter of tuning and fine adjustments (i hope).

5% of bench work 95% imagination is perfect balance for Tesla types, for others the reverse might be more lucrative. I prefer the first, it requires much less funds and it leads to deeper understanding.

Hyperphantasia is gift Tesla had and so do I. sounds like u do 2!

Good for you. I always had hypervivid imagination (and creativity).

Problem is when ur imaginated circuit does not resemble circuit in reality. Just What is electricity?

Circuits i analyse in my mind are exactly the same circuits from diagrams and exactly as components are put together on the board. These circuits are quite simple, it's about complex dynamics manifesting in them. Take the simple discharging of a cap into an L, consider what exactly happens at every point in time and exactly how we get current amplification in parallel RLC... People take these things for granted.

Good that you ask what electricity is. Like old gods of etheric sciences (Tesla, Rota, Hollingshead) knew well it is a complex stream constituting of at least two parts, neutral/dominant/unobserved and lower/inferiror/observable.

As Keely and later Hollingshead said all flows are triune, which might be equated to male (electric), female (magnetic) and neutral (Poynting vector, I AM, Time axis, G-axis).

Rota (who was in my opinion far ahead of all of them put together) however gave a more complex description saying that electricity is formed from five currents, electric component of two currents and the magnetic component of three.. More on Rota's incredible work here https://web.archive.org/web/20180712204654/www.keelynet.com/docs/louisrotaairship.pdf

I also go quite in depth about these primary currents on my website. All this stuff i mention here is really essential, difference between speed and density of male (electric) and female (magnetic) components of the GREAT LIGHT, 6 axis of time creating 3d space, ratio of 49 by which matter density, speed of time and speed of light increase/decrease as we go toward higher/lower planes/octaves, the fact that primary emanation from the sun are 33 types of vital energy (non herzian waves) of which each consists of 7 types of even subtler particles (don't be surprised that factorial of 7 is 5040 numerical value 9) and that when these superluminal particles hit the planetary vortex they slow down and merge into well known polarized herzian waves aka light and heat, or that Earth's gravitational vortex is extending just beyond our Moon after which is a about 7,000km thick neutral zone after which Earth's gravity becomes R E P U L S I V E etc. This last detail is not even on the site...there is SO much lacking in mankind's knowledge it is appalling to the extreme degree.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/

Zila did explain it but u said u don't like her words - I don't either b/c she talked Scalar waves which I don't think is right. u said everything is LIGHT and this is good place to start.
Means electricity is Light waves only, not other theories.

Her language was pretty messy. Scalar waves is a misnomer altho i don't mind using it. We all know scalar is something like temperature, no vector, just magnitude. We are talking longitudinal EM waves (i dislike when they claim these waves have no magnetic component, so wrong). All is LIGHT indeed, all is play of polarities around neutral axis, all is waves, traveling and standing (which is made of two opposing traveling waves).

If ignition coil output jumps to both terminals then what is the polarity (or charge) of this current?
Do u believe polarity can swap like Male can spontaneously become Female?
I don't think. So simple experiment can have HUGE implications which is why I stated check ignition coil thing.

I can't believe i had to draw it for you, see below. When you bring the HV output from the secondary, of course it jumps to both battery terminals, these are two available paths secondary can close on itself.

ignition coil spark is no different to Don spark is no different to Zila spark u see.

True and not true. Not all spark gaps are the same, that's why we experiment with various sg materials, shapes and distance (also vacuum vs non-vacuum), you see.

really no Q's???

wlw

Don't be surprized if you get no questions. Maybe you expected just cause you claim to have success everyone will shower you with attention, begging you for the "secret" but you forgot that you are late to the party, it's all been revealed LONG ago, at the same time, everyone here and elsewhere are aware these things are delicate and no one can do the hard work for them, that is why no matter how detailed instructions are replications almost always fail, you just HAVE to learn deeply and get feel for all this (or get lucky).

[nix85]

it was not "luck". i understand electricity and what it is first.
then model circuits in my imagination.
only when it conforms to Nature do u truly have it right. if theories persist that are not Natural then it won't work out.

Judging by your posts it's questionable how much you "understood". Of course whatever we do including our circuits must work with Nature not against it (fighting lenz brute force, rockets, explosion engines...) if it is to work constructively and efficiently.

male is electric. female is also electric.

Bro you don't know even the basics.

Female polarity is magnetic, NOT electric. Never was electric, never will be, this is the most fundamental essence of polarity, of WILL (electric-male) and LOVE (magnetic-female). I wrote in-depth about all this on my site https://vril12.wordpress.com/ but of course you did not even open it cause you think you "know", you do NOT know.

there are unseen flows here as every wave is an octave in and of itself.

what u call gravity is misunderstood as magnetism.

both are created effects of compression/expansion light-wave current or electric current if u like
and the neutral is equilibrium or the opposite of opposites. i.e. still light or the FULCRUM of all motion.
forget Keely, read Dr. Walter Russell. A New Concept of the Universe.

I already talked about unseen etheric streams around the Earth here and elsewhere many times, this non-herzian spectrum Tesla (among others) rediscovered, he reported the sensations from tingling (very commonly reported as such or as thousand needles in ufo cases) to heating, cooling (allegedly he was able to heat/cool whole rooms), push and allegedly later he built a flying platform....in last paragraph i talked about Earth's grav vortex and how gravity beyond the Moon becomes repulsive, the 33 types of vital energy emitted by the sun,  that each plane/octave higher we go speed of light, density of matter and rate of time flow all increase 49 times, this is why time on higher planes is known to flow much faster (or stop in certain neutral bands)..........how could you recognize how rare and how essential this info is....all this key stuff you never even heard of. Some day you will.

You tell me to read Russel, i studied Russel before you knew he existed, have his books, and Otis Carr who put his work into practice.....

Russel understood the double vortexial nature of generation of matter by compression and expansion of light, which is another representation of ancient universal form of double tetrahedron (which is in turn the first 3D structure, more on that below), Merkabah, unification of polarities creates life. I wrote about this on the site

"crossing of A and B lines (of primary light) of same frequency produces nodes where their substances meet (mating!) generating so called particles." and "The G line of TIME or Poynting Vector separating the A (electric) and B (magnetic) lines of Primary Light is an insulator between the two which spiral around it and continue their eternal dance by partial induction".

Russel admitted ether which he called "atoms of space".... so there is nothing wrong about following Russel, however, the problem is if you follow ONLY Russel, then your view is extremely limited, lacking so much, and that is exactly what you are, someone who did a basic research, drew a line and gave up on anything more.

As for tetrahedron and creation from nothing, (already have written about this on the forum and on the site)...

In short, how Self/God creates 3D space from nothing using quantized consciousness and sound. Self first imagines an abstract (timeless, spaceless) set of vibrations of infinite frequency and amplitude. Into this abstract mental concept, Self projects another set of vibrations of FINITE frequency and amplitude, thus BOUNDING the infinity by interference, this is done along the 6 AXIS OF TIME. Time does not move, it oscillates in-place, matter of matter and antimatter universes travels on time-wave and like a diode picks up vibrations only in one direction, their timelines diverging in opposite direction (official model says the same)...From each time axis it appears as if the next axis moves at 1/2 it's speed (from perspective of one side of equilateral triangle while it traverses it's whole length it APPEARS as if the side nearby traversed 1/2 of the same length) yet they are exactly the same, creating the harmonic ratio of 1:2, this is the very basis of TRUE RELATIVITY and it allows for creation of a 60° angle , which in turn allows for creation of a tetrahedron, a first 3D structure....

It would be best if you read the original https://galactic.no/rune/iarapdx1.html Why i got a hutch you're not gonna do it, i guess you think you "know"

Also to dismiss Keely, my my...how unwise. Keely, who was a Master, wrongfully proclaimed a charlatan, by the official "science", who toward his later years gained mastery over the etheric forces to a degree very rare if any did. He was the first in modern times who mastered not only degravitation but true artificial non-inertial gravity field, negative polar stream he called it. Keely who first discovered the triune structure of the proton (he called molecule), the flower of life interference pattern inside a proton, septet of nature being these 3 dipoles + the neutral center, Master Keely who brought us

Forty Laws of Sympathetic Vibratory Physics

https://translatedby.com/you/john-ernst-worrell-keely-s-forty-laws-of-sympathetic-vibratory-physics/original/

....if you only knew how much you're missing.

Let's just say you have NO IDEA what gravity is.

Gravity is often called vertical component of magnetism, or "COLD MAGNETIC FORCE". It is a higher order force but in essence it is nothing but matter (quantized consciousness) in spiraling motion. As a field it is a local polarization of the Universal Currents, a vortex within a vortex (of a planet, sun, galaxy....), this etheric vortex existed about 3 billion years before the cruder forms of matter accumulated on it and formed material Earth we know today. It's range, as i said, extends somewhat beyond the orbit of Moon and becomes repulsive beyond. When spacecraft approaches a planet it MUST be in direction of spin of it's etheric envelope, going the other way would be like hitting an invisible wall and certain death. This is the reason asteroids flare up as they fall in the sun's vortex and why most of them burn out before they reach the planetary surface. No one leaves this vortex, this etheric envelope, in body or discarnated unless able to generate an envelope of his own (or be carried in one created by another/technical means). Detailed mechanics of this field are given in the FALLING BODIES THEORY by Zirbes (diagram from the book below). It is the same microscopic forcefield around electrons, protons, atoms, molecules....on the macroscopic scale, but still, just matter in motion, nothing more.

Gravity, magnetism and all sub-forces are not separate forces but DISTURBANCES of one Primary Force which is neither electric nor magnetic, it is NEUTRAL, already addressed that in previous post. (not all electric as you and Ken Wheeler (Theoria Apophasis) clones think).

This is perfectly summed up in simple language in the chapter MOTION FROM INHERENT ENERGY from ETIDORHPA i also link in the article https://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/eti/eti33.htm

What you call gravity as a force which makes things fall down are negative MAGNETIC lines of force of the primary light streaming into the Earth attracted by the positive electric core. Also there is a superimposed COUNTERSTREAM at 1/3 higher frequency (as discovered by Hollingshead, this is the NAVAZ of Atlantis, their greatest discovery), so when atomic speed is increased by treatment with neutral ray, matter becomes transparent to inward flow and starts to resist the outward one, balance can be reached so that object is fixed in air. Of course, you never heard of these things. Also inward flow is associated with positive polarity coming from the Sun and it manifests light, heat and gravity, while Earth reflects the negative associated with dark, cold and levitation.

In short, no, primal force is not electric, it is neutral, electric and magnetic are +1 and -1, electric being slightly denser but slower, so overall they are in balance, eternally seeking rest of the neutral center, the G-LINE OF TIME creating and insulating them - THIS is the GREAT LIGHT i referred to, not the polarized, herzian light you can see, but the dark light (black sun) inside it, the omnipotent intelligence permeating ALL, yet unseen, undetectable, eternal. If partially resisted it manifests the cascading force stream starting from magnetism > electricity > electromagnetism > sound > matter. Reverse is of course possible, unification of two or more lower forces generating the higher one. For example colliding the two gamma rays producing the electron-positron pair etc.

ur language is complex because there is no accurate understanding of Light, the one thing.
the language of Light in God's vocabulary is of course COLOR.
but in man's language we have not the vernacular yet to describe Light as it is.
yes u r right so much lacks from Man's knowledge.

I'm sure it sounds complex to you but it is simple if you understand it. Your explanations are too bare. It's easy to remain on that level and call anything else "too complex" but reality is you did just a basic research and gave up.

Yup u made nice drawing but didn't answer my question. 

If spark jumps to pos is the spark itself pos or neg? male or female?
the terminal of the battery is pos which is suppose to repel pos no?
If spark jumps to neg is the spark itself pos or neg? male or female?
neg is suppose to repel neg
but strange thing is spark give us BOTH. it swaps . hmmm u don't find that noteworthy?
NOW,
snip that connecting wire and u get 2 sparks that both jump to + & — ever done that?
called 'waste spark management'  Google it.

I answered but you did not get it And you still don't get it. Take 3 1.5V batteries and put them in series, but reverse the polarity on the third one so it's ++ --. IMAGINE, current flowing through a battery in reverse.

am not looking for attention, ur right its all out there and u must experiment and learn to get feel for the thing. then its really ease and u can use cheaper parts sure.
am just here to offer opinion and maybe help some1.

wlw

Good. I got the feel already, i see it. Will report when time comes.

[tomd]

@whitelightningwizard
I have some questions/queries you may be able to shed some light on.
Zilano: "bifilar is nothing! its same coil but ccw. if ur one tesla is cw the other is ccw. joined togather. one produces voltage and other produces current." I think she is referring to the ¼ wave phase difference between voltage and current when the secondary length is ¼ wave. However in the case of the reverse Tesla circuit resonance is forced using a seperate capacitor rather than the self capacitance of the coil. Therefore does her statement still hold true? I always thought cw and ccw windings were to negate the bemf from secondary to primary winding.

Zilano: "energy doesnt come from ground. ground acts as a drain pipe and if we use choke there we can control the hv voltage of the secondary coil. and if we shunt it means no resistance to ground then hv is at full peak in secondary coil. its the magic of magnetic and electric fileds that produce amps.
This doesn't correspond with what Don is saying in this video: https://youtu.be/dICbnzfY464

[nix85]

Question above is addressed to wlw but i will reply, not to the questioner but to general audience for sake of all. First, like i said before, Zilano used term bifilar for BUCKING COIL, but this is not true bucking coil, bucking coil refers to non-inductive coil. The fact that two secondaries in her (and mine) setup are wound CW and CCW does not negate lenz by itself, current flows in the opposite directions in two secondaries, their magnetic fields are in same direction, aiding.

It is common knowledge that grounded Tesla coil has tendency to naturally resonate at 1/4 wavelength (length of wire x 4 = wavelength) or 1/2 wavelength if not grounded and in grounded case grounded side is the current peak (and voltage node) and the opposite side voltage peak (and current node). Electric and magnetic fields are of course 90° out of phase in LC tanks, everybody knows that.

When Zila said about CW CCW one producing voltage and other current she was reciting famous Don's claim he never really explained. This claim of his taps into some basic differences between CW and CCW coils in context of etheric science. More here http://www.villesresearch.com/ether.html#magnetic%20fields%20and%20energies  But in the other place she said that grounded center tap is current and that opposite sides are voltage (in concord with conventional theory) and that combining voltage and current we get power, totally different from Don's claim she recited before, that one coil produces voltage and another current, but nothing strange there. Greatest mistake for anyone is to take her or anyone too literally, possibly, or rather, probably, this playful, messy approach was intentional, that is, spontaneous in accord with the feeling that there is no need to be too clear and coherent except in cases when chela (student) shows true dedication.