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[onepower]

stivep

No method can deliver more energy at output than delivered at input.

A heat pump can deliver/move four times more heat energy than is input or COP>4. You may want to have a talk with your refrigerator because it seems to know something you do not.

it means - there is no way to gain energy  at output you can only lose.

No, energy cannot be created or destroyed and it is always conserved. We cannot lose or gain energy, only transform or move it.

AC

[stivep]

stivep
This is incorrect and the Conservation of Energy (COE) demands energy cannot be created (over-unity) or destroyed (under-unity) for obvious reasons. If any material thing or circuit was under-unity it would represent an energy sink relative to the surrounding energy. Energy would keep flowing into the imaginary energy sink forcing the surrounding space to become overunity violating the COE.

This is why energy cannot be created or destroyed only transformed. We cannot get something from nothing nor can we force something into nothing because conceptually they represent the same thing.

This is also incorrect for similar reasons. Motion relates to kinetic energy and is subject to the same rules defined by the conservation of energy.

For example, suppose we could remove all apparent motion from an object. The atoms/particles/sub-atomic particles which make up the object are still in perpetual motion because matter cannot be created/destroyed nor the energy associated with it. The energy must always exist as either the motion of the particles or the motion of EM fields transferring energy between particles.

In effect, the universe is like a giant vacuum tube where all particles are constantly in motion and transferring EM wave energy between themselves. The obvious question is, if motion is not perpetual then where did all the energy go?. So a particle slowed down or sped up representing a change in kinetic energy, where did the energy go?. You see, your reasoning fails under even the most basic scrutiny.

AC

Good point .
Very much thank you : - wording under-unity - is an unfortunate form of  misrepresentation.
the right form of expression is:  less than unity. <1

good approach to  over-unity is here:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/over-unity

over- +‎ unity ("the number "1""), referring to the fact that an over-unity device should produce more kinetic energy than whatever potential it receives as input.
Coined to avoid patent rules that prevent impossible technologies such as perpetual motion machines being patented.

Why do subatomic particles seem to have perpetual motion?
is explained here:
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more of it  is here:
_{https://www.quora.com/Why-do-subatomic-particles-seem-to-have-perpetual-motion
-it is an outdated model of Bohr Atom with is "planetary  structure"  that is to be blamed for this
confusion. But we still use it  just for easiness of  an explanation popular especially in education of young children in EU.}

Wesley

[stivep]

A heat pump can deliver/move four times more heat energy than is input or COP>4. You may want to have a talk with your refrigerator because it seems to know something you do not.
AC

For a refrigerator, the focus is on removing heat from a specific area.
For a heat pump, the focus is on dumping heat to a specific area. 
total equation of net energy use makes you pay for use of your refrigerator with no gain present.
please specify  how do you understand the principal difference between a heat pump and a refrigerator so I can respond to your question   better.
Why there was nobody including you looping this   COP>4. back so you could become  respected  new Kapanadze?
-you  may also use help from this article: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/344747/heat-pump-is-a-refrigerator

Wesley

[joellagace]

Completely off topic this one.  Good thing he said he would not participate and leave room for others. 

I'll save space in this forum  not going to  more of it.

_{opinion expressed is my own}
Wesley

[stivep]

Wesley: "No method can deliver more  energy at output than delivered at input."

Are you completely and totally sure of your statement above? 
Just curious!! Regards,
Pm

That postulate was  first proposed by Gabrielle Émilie Le Tonnelier de Breteuil, Marquise du Châtelet  in 17 December 1706 – 10 September 1749)
Mechanical equivalent of heat was proposed in 1798, by Count Rumford (Benjamin Thompson)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
The laws of thermodynamics history goes back to  Sadi Carnot in 1824
Yes According to  modern physics as of today nothing changed  since ~1900 in this area.
Wesley