Building the Vehicle Physicists Called Impossible (feat. Veritasium), OverUnity?

[tinman]

Brad,

Go to a gym, like many people do.

Not a good excuse, nice try.

Tom

Tom
It is quite easy to push on a vehicle backwards, and have that vehicle go forward a greater distance than you pushed backward, using only gears and wheels. You don't need a treadmill to show this. I use to do it with lego cars years ago.


Brad

[TommeyReed]

Brad,

"It is quite easy to push on a vehicle backwards, and have that vehicle go forward a greater distance than you pushed backward, using only gears and wheels. You don't need a treadmill to show this. I use to do it with lego cars years ago"

Let me get the straight, you want to change the rules and take the treadmill off the table. That was my point from the beginning.

Looks like I have to explain it with pictures, even kids can understand.

Sorry Brad, but I have to be called you out as BS. Nice try.

When you put your geared Lego car on the treadmill, it will not move it forward with gears no matter how you want to believe it will work.

Tom

[tinman]

Brad,

"It is quite easy to push on a vehicle backwards, and have that vehicle go forward a greater distance than you pushed backward, using only gears and wheels. You don't need a treadmill to show this. I use to do it with lego cars years ago"

Let me get the straight, you want to change the rules and take the treadmill off the table. That was my point from the beginning.

Looks like I have to explain it with pictures, even kids can understand.

Sorry Brad, but I have to be called you out as BS. Nice try.

When you put your geared Lego car on the treadmill, it will not move it forward with gears no matter how you want to believe it will work.

Tom

The air that the propeller pushes against in the treadmill buggy is not moving, so the wheels that also would push the buggy should also be on a part of the treadmill that is not moving. These wheels would be powered by another wheel that is being turned by the belt on the treadmill, then through a gearbox, and into the wheels sitting on the stationary part of the treadmill. The two are the same--the propeller pushes against stationary air, so with the wheel driven buggy, those wheels should also be pushing against a stationary medium. You cant have it both ways Tom, regardless of how confused you are about how the FDWTTW buggy works.

The propeller is simply a rotating sail, that due to it's pitch and rotation, its surfaces are effectively moving down wind slower than the wind.
You are simply gearing up the wind speed via the propeller, the very same way as you gear up a bike, so as your feet travel slower than the ground you are riding on.

And as far as your argument with Cloxxki go's about the physics professor go's, well some of these !so called! physicists have the simple things excape them some times, and obviously he was wrong.

So no Tom--no BS.

Brad

[TommeyReed]

Brad,

Really? Come on man (Joe Biden)!

What you are saying is nonsense with the gears theory.

This is another way you claim your geared car would work. Not going to happen Brad!

As far as the car with the propeller, the treadmill moving the tires alone would cause the car to follow the direction of the treadmill plus the increase load of turning the propeller will increase friction. The propeller needs even greater thrust to over come these factors.

Yet, you are claiming you can do this with simple gears to move it forward using the same wheels that created friction and even accelerate it forward is just insane comment.

First of all, you might as well say you can move a car down the road without any motor.

Tom

[ramset]

Some itches just can't be scratched without a bit of elbow grease,
Or journey into the "what ifs"!


Myself ( being completely intrigued)
Quite curious about power in /power out measurements


Here we dabble in all manner of outside the box ,


Greatful that Tom puts efforts beyond the keyboard..( as do many others in open source community)
You just never know ....


His design reminds me of a chaotic gyroscope device that Tinsel Koala
Had shared some images of years back,( was an incredible build)


He said it did "other worldly things" (his opinions.. not the scientists who commissioned the build)
There was no convincing TK otherwise ( always a bit itchy ...


You just never know what can happen with outside the box "what ifs" ?
After all ,
This young woman's efforts got us here
Approximately 12:50 mark


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VUgajGv4Aok&t=0s
Bringing generators and motors into this ....
Is just a cool evolution of the "what ifs"
And opportunity for measuring ( honing

Respectfully
Chet K