Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[helmut]

To All, who have a Window motor already,
but can?t get it yet to run.
.....
I think the Hall IC and SS-Relay can be very easily
substituted by something much simpler, like a reed
switch which can just be placed near the main rotor
and be closed by the main magnets.

This will also not use up any power from the cap.

Please everybody try this out and let us know,
what will happen.

Hi Stefan

Perhaps you can make a drawing to show the circuit
including a Reed?

regards
Helmut

[CTG Labs]

Stefan,

As you can see, Rob has not built his motor yet!  He is still making the end pieces to connect the magnet assembly to a shaft.  His other measurements where do determine the ratings of the Hall IC and the relay.

PLEASE CALM DOWN or Build your own motor.

You say you are too busy to make a motor and dont have the parts yet you are soo eager to get every one else to do it for you.  Generally if I really want to do something I MAKE TIME to do it.  Why cant you?


D.

[neptune]

Hi all.  Helmut, if you refer to Mikes original diagram, Just fit the reed in place of the SS relay shown in the diagram, and do not use a hall effect device. I think this is what Hartiberlin means. Personally, I would trigger this read by a small magnet fitted to a seperate wheel on the end of the shaft, rather than the main magnets. This way you can vary the timing. Also, could we all be nicer to Stefan, he is only doing his best to help us all.....

[neptune]

There is a basic question in all this which is keeping me awake at nights. I am not the worlds best when it comes to circuits, but I aint stupid either. Referring to Mikes original diagram, every body talks about the SS relay putting the motor coil in series with coil 3. I challenge anybody to explain the current path when this happens.
         Suppose the motor coil puts out a pulse of current, as it must if it helps to charge the Capacitor. Its polarity is dependant on which main magnet pole is where ,at the instant the SS relay closes. The only output path from the lower end of the motor coil on the diagram is through the NPN transistor just below it . Current can flow through this transistor if it is switched on. The only problem is, the return path to the motor coil is via the diode near the Bridge rectifier, and this is not possible due to the diode being wrong way round.
                   If current tries to flow in the opposite direction, it is blocked by the NPN transistor, whether it is switched on or off.Is this what Mike meant when he said " taking into account the diode" ? Did I miss some thing here? Is this diode unique amongst diodes in that it will pass current in either direction? Cold it have been blown by overvoltage, and have become conductive in either direction? Dont just ignore this Inconvenient Truth, Post your oppinions please.............Neptune

[helmut]

Hello
During the Weekend i had made a start with my Motor.
I add some Pics to show you about the Setup.

The Chassis is made complet from Foam.
The Rod is made from Corbonfibre to keep every magnetic influence away.
The Rotor is from Fome as well
There are 4 Magnets only.Each lifts about 8.4 Kg.
At the Time , the Rotor can spin on the Rod,to keep Friction low.
If it works,it can be modified.