High voltage HHO by IronHead

[hkyle]

Yes right now I am in the process of getting parts to replicate dave lawtons / meyers VIC. just need the vero board and caps and resistors. got everything else including the 200v 35 amp mosfet.

[h20power]

@hkyle, Take a look at the new Dave Lawton circuit, I put on overunit http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2102.50.html

Note the change in the VIC circuit, this is over 300% effiency over Faradays.

With the chokes added in, it really took down the amperage, but note, you have to hook up the chokes right. Give the chokes three too four layers each, that's 34+33+33=100 or 25x4=100 respectfully. Then you have to hook up the positive coil with the starting winding going too the WFC, the negetive is just the opposite, the start of the winding going away from the WFC. If you can make the negetive choke coil adjustable, that way when you get really close yo u can fine tune it better.

[wattsup]

Does anyone have an actual diagram of this set-up.

@IronHead

Your coffee pot system is 4" x 3" x 2" so I am assuming that each plate is 3" x 2" or 6 square inches each. Since there are three cells, not counting the neutrals (18 sq.in.) under current at 36VDC and 12 amps, that would make 432 watts or 24 watts per square inch.

Also there is the fact that both sides of the plates would count as surface area. What I am trying to get at is I think it is important to refer to the voltage applied by square inch or some other relative term as others are giving their specs but we do not know the surface area. Also, the neutral plates can be counted and expressed to give some relation from one unit to the other. Let's say, in your case, you are using 6 neutral plates, that's 36 sq.in. So we could say you system is a 24 watts per square inch over 36 sq.in. neutral plates. Or we could say a 24W/36. But I do think there should be some standard method to decribe these units for comparison of results.

Lastly, is there a standard method to measure the actual hydrogen production. Also, is hydrogen production always 100% per volume, or is it like when we produce ozone (O3) which is usually in the 1% - 5% level.

[Moab]

Hi wattsup.

The calculations would have to be in a cell that is filled with distilled water. and of the same design. Because every city's water treatment is different, It would be difficult to use a resistance from one cell to another.and from one city's or private water well owner's water. here is the rub as it were. If you have your own water well your water will have different minerals than the next guy. and so the resistance of the cell would be greatly different from one cell to another even if they are built exactly the same. So it would be necessary to use the same or as close to the same water as we can get in every cell of the same design. This would create a base line, a "Rule of thumb" to use when calculating a cell for size, plates, voltage, amperage. But then again I am a new guy here in the HHO world. maybe i am way off base here. I do agree that a baseline or (rule of thumb) for cell design would be of great value. But one must consider that water is of different characteristics from one place to another. Ironhead has a water well. So you can see in his videos that the well water has a small amount of iron in it. and probably some calcium as well as other minerals. So if we used Distilled water it would be the same for everyone. and the numbers would also. Just a Thunk. i hope i wasn't too far off topic. Moab

[Moab]

The water difference is of importance especially when we get in to vary high voltage cells. I've seen this In some of my cell designs.