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Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU

Started by otto, April 17, 2007, 02:32:36 AM

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Bruce_TPU

#400
June 10, 2007, 11:13:28 PM
Yep,
Bob's 3 frequency's for the splitting of HHO (My first step after replication of Otto's set up) was just happenstance... LOL  Yea, he knows and has a working device.  He knows how it works.  Either he built it, or it was given to him, but he has both the understanding of how it works and the unit.  Don't believe me...reread the letter and remember, I ERASED his last name.  I told Marco that day by PM.  I did not want to distract the forum at the time.  Nor now, BUT if he will come clean, now that this huge step has been made, it could save months or years of R&D.

Cheers,  ;)
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Grumpy

#401
June 10, 2007, 11:37:55 PM
Quote from: btentzer on June 10, 2007, 10:27:01 PM
This is not just an electronic device.  It is not a "coil" setup, nor a type of transformer.  So, what is it?  What do Roberto and Otto think it is? 

Well, at this point it is a damn fine induction heater (based on the aluminum heat sinks) with the "oscilloscope damage option".  Must have paid extra for that.   ;D

Dave has a good point - let's wait and see what Rob and Otto have next.

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

Super God

#402
June 10, 2007, 11:56:24 PM
I think they should try a 120v/60W lightbulb once.  I wanna see how bright that one is, that's what I'd do if I had that thing.  Maybe after awhile you guys can rig up an inverter to this and see what kind of voltage and current you can get out of this thing, but that's just thinking ahead.  Good luck!
>9000

chrisC

#403
June 11, 2007, 12:46:47 AM
Dave:

Let me just put things in perspective. I am no rocket scientist. I have not even started replicating Otto's setup. I have no oscilloscope(yet) and no soldering iron nor electronics workbench nor any of the fancy frequency generators, DVM's etc. I started reading SM's thread in April 2007, asking myself a lot of questions and doing my own due dilligence and settled on trying to understand Erfinder's findings and eventually following enough of Otto's project to understand he is one of a few people who have gotten far enough in his demo to confirm a lot of SM's TPU phenomenon.
That's the background. I have no claim to fame but always wanted to seek the the 'unconventional' truth because I find that when people think they knew the obvious, then that usually is where the problem lies!

OK, let's again start with simple truths. Is SM's device real? If you don't think so, then there is no need to read on. Quit now.

OK, let's assume it is real. Is there a very special super duper ion lithium battery inside that will light a 100W bulb or ten, 100W bulbs for x number of minutes. If you believe there is such a battery, read no more. Quit now.

OK, then there is no battery and certainly no external power chord and there is no microwave induction capable of inducing such power to fake the experiment. So let's just assume the SM device is real and as SM showed it, it is able to get energy out from AEther? There's no psychic energy and no science fiction here. OK? So something happened. Right?

OK, now you see Otto's project. You asked, "...only say 30W brightness of a 100W bulb brightness in the photo!" AND it uses a 12V power supply. Therefore part of the power must be coming from the power supply, seeing a DC path does seem to exist in the schematic.....But then ask yourself why the need of such a convoluted DC path if the purpose was just to light the lamp. Common sense tells you it is far more complex and certainly in the "real" SM device, there was no power supply.

OK, most people will not understand any more than what their minds tell them at this point. They will tell you it's an induction coil, it's this and it's that. Well, Otto has even told you to reference Dave L's own interpretation of SM's device operation. Even with those drawn diagrams, will people understand any better? Quite apparently not, so it seems.

Therefore, if you can use your own reasoning of what is obvious and still cannot understand any better when some bright guy draws out the details of his explaination of inertia momentum, why continue to insist the only way to understand how this device operates is to measure power output vs power input!

If you think this is an over-unity device then I think there are many other web sites that are more enjoyable. btw, I don't know everything but I do know I will not insist that something MUST be done THIS WAY OR THAT WAY in order for me to be considered reasonably bright. (I don't think you are "thick" in the British sense of the word. I just think you need to free your mind!).

Ok, I will stop here. I really hope to be able to get a oscilloscope soon so I can confirm my understanding with the results of the experiments and not the other way round. So many people here want instant results and even if the instant results are given to them, they don't know how to intrepret the data and go back in circles because that's what magicians do to people. They want them to see what they want to believe! Open your minds before you open your eyes!

Regards
chrisC

z_p_e

#404
June 11, 2007, 01:09:13 AM
ChrisC and btentzer.

There is plenty that could be said, but somehow I know it would be pointless.

Suffice it to say, evidently, you're both in way over your heads.

Darren
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