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Triple Pulse Generator using cheapish parts

Started by Peterae, May 13, 2007, 07:22:08 AM

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Bruce_TPU

#10
May 13, 2007, 10:43:08 PM
Hi Mike,

I understand some are skeptical and some are frustrated.  I believe the engineering reports on the TPU.  Much more convincing then the videos and very legitamate by very credentialed professional people.

SM said that if just one little thing is out of place the TPU will not work.  We have clues, good ones I think.  I think enough to get a real good start.  I lack equipment and need a tube circuit built to really get started.  I think in reading SM's posts, He suggests going the tube route because it is "easier" to see some "power generation".  He mentions their speed, and many other things.  But if everone will read the full post linked on my last post he tells of the frustration trying to get the same results using SS.  And THEY KNEW HOW the generator works.  So we as one large build team, are trying to find the right avenues and continue to gather knowledge and garner clues.  You are a good man and have offered many on this forum help.  If it turns out that someone out there or my guys helping me, get a tube circuit working in a tpu, we will need you and others to design it to SS.  But WE WILL KNOW IT WORKS! And that would be an exciting achievement for everyone on this forum and could change the world.  I hope this encourages some out there who have grown discouraged or frustrated.

And those wanting to go the SS route, at least follow SM's advice about soldering 1/2 inch above the board and keeping the SS in the center of the TPU.  Thank you.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

archon79

#11
May 14, 2007, 09:39:14 AM
The people who know most about tubes are audio amp designers. It's basically the last field that still specializes in tube curcuits. We need some of those people here I think

MeggerMan

#12
May 14, 2007, 06:45:35 PM
Hi Peterae, MrAmos,

The AD9833 looks like the business. sine/triangle/square waves.
What more could you want.
I found a link here showing some PIC code:
http://www.picbasic.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3407

Perhaps we can all put our heads together to come up with a PIC or AVR based 3 or 4 channel DDS function generator with LCD display.
Farnell sell the AD9833 for about 4 GBP if you buy 10 or more.
Anyone in the UK want to goes halves?

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/Semiconductors/Signal+Conversion/ANALOG+DEVICES/AD9833BRMZ/displayProduct.jsp?sku=1143310

We could use the same clock for the CPU as the DDS.


Rob

Thedane

#13
May 15, 2007, 02:09:35 AM
Where does it say that you NEED 3 function generators?
If you have 2 generators, each with a different frequency, you'll generate a 3'rd beat frequency.

This is called binaural, and is often used in music to generate special effects:
http://www.binaural.com/binfaq.html

shuzammy

#14
May 15, 2007, 04:26:09 AM
The topic of binaural beats is an interesting and noteworthy one.  However, these are frequencies that are "deduced" by the mind (at least in theory) as it subconsciously "makes up the difference" of two independent frequencies.

For example, the difference between a left channel frequency of 50Hz and a right channel frequency of 57Hz is 7Hz.  In this case, 7Hz is said to be the binaural beat frequency.  This particular frequency happens to fall within the Theta brain wave range of 4Hz and 8Hz.  Hence, by listening to two channels of audio with a difference of 7Hz (or anywhere between 4Hz and 8Hz for that matter), one may, in theory, entrain or induce the mind into Theta brain wave activity.

In the case of a TPU, however, we find that when SM powers up and down the larger unit, he flips the switch three times, once for each frequency.  This leads one to believe the third frequency is not virtual (as in the case of a binaural).  One may conclude that the third frequency is not likely a "difference of" but rather the summation or a harmonic of the Primary/Seconday.  Hence, it may be fairly stated that the third frequency is "induced" rather than "deduced".

Binaural beats is a very insightful connection and I'm glad someone brought it up.  After all, everything is connected.
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