Chas Campbell free power motor

[GraViTaR]

I thought the description I wrote explained it pretty well. I can only assume that either you didn't read the description, or you just don't understand it.

There is nothing wrong in my picture. The only way there would be drag is if all of the wheels are not the exact sizes necessary to turn in perfect unison.

D is a ring and has no axle. It sits freely within A. The weight of D, freely resting on one side of A keeps A out of balance and constantly turning clockwise. Do you understand now?

What I need are the exact ratios for all the wheels; taking into consideration the fact that A contacts D on the inside surface and B on the outside surface. This means that the thickness of A must be calculated into the ratios.

This setup cannot work.  You rely on D to turn A, but D will not turn A.  The only way D could turn A is if it contacts A on one side and thereby pulls it down.  This can certainly be set up, but it will be a very short experiment, and D will quickly fall to the bottom of A and rest there.

What is happening in your drawing is D is balanced on C and A, and therefore it is not inclined to turn anything, as it is not causing anything to be off balance.  Try it.

Yes, I am very willing to try it.

Is there anyone here who is good at math who can tell me what size all the wheels have to be so that they will turn in unison?

Once you give it a nudge, it will keep turning by itself as long as all the wheels are the right size.

Does anyone here know math?

[hartiberlin]

Just try it first in WM2D,
there is a free version which can not save,
but Ash posted a source, where you also could get a full version ! 

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

"Its a shame we have so much crap to sort through thanks to Hum."

Good night Ashtweth.  I am sorry you feel that way.  I will not post further on this Charles Campbell matter.  You are free once again to weave your tall tales of amazing machines without further burden of critical comment from me.  I give up.

Good luck to you in making good your promises to the children.  You will live in the world which you create.  Go for what you believe in!  Humbugger

Okay to make you and others happy, i have UPDATED Chas's page based on our findings, and moved him to registered technology,http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/RegisteredTech.htm
(an R and D engineer who ideas remain valid), and will further UPDATE his page after our investigation on the 15th, i still remain confident that his gravity ideas are sound, and would not hesitate to endorse his gravity wheel ideas in the R and D lab.

I have also UPDATED the page with the figures that were quoted by him, and will be looking forward to trying other ideas on his system, and still helping him .He still has the heart of an altruist.

The devices listed here are presented as 'ready to go'
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/RandDprinciples.htm

the web site will be uploaded soon.

And i still stand by our conclusion saying MORE investigation is needed before we close the book Hum, and i still think some of your 'inquiries' some times GEL like your working for the oil companies.And attitude of closing the book on him is not sound.

We will make a video presentation with all the themes of how investigation and verifiable observation is needed on Laurence's and Milkovics device, and will add in Chas's when his systems results when done.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Call me distrustful, but why didn't a simple "total power in/total power out" kind of measuring was taken instead of having to deal with esoteric methods?

losh, just list what method you would want us to test on the 15th and we will do it, Im sure Stefan will out line what proper duty cycle method by pulsing can be done.

We are here to preform the tests, so don't hesitate to ask.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

@Ash and @Hum

When it rains, it pours.
OK. Both of you to your rooms.... lol
Actually, a nice spat clears the air doesn't it? Lucky guys.

@Ash

Don't go blaming Hum. He is our resident reality check and it will take lots more than that to get him off this forum.

This is the problem. When you go to do an OU investigation like on Chas' device, you have to go there with a totally objective mind-set.

If you measure voltage and amperage at the PM and the Generator. If it works, it works. And if it doesn't, it doesn't. End of story #1.

In your case, you are talking RV, pulse, now you're talking air-conditioner clutches (do you know the load it will add to the PM - ouch), and the sort. What you are not talking about is the simplest questions of all. So let me put it in the simple and direct questions.

1) Did you measure the voltage and amperage at the PM inlet?
2) If 1 is Yes. What are the values?
3) If 1 is No. Why?

4) Did you measure the voltage and amperage at Generator outlet?
5) If 4 is Yes. What are the values?
6) If 4 is No. Why?

7) If 4 is Yes. Please describe how you took your measurments.

Look, if Chas' device does not produce OU as it is, no modifications, no RV, no pulse, straight loaded, then WE NEED TO KNOW THIS, AS IT IS. End of story.

The rest of the story we can all elect to pursue or not, given the straight answers. No fluff, required. People need to know this in order to take a decision or not on replication, based on facts.

Now if Chas' device does not work as proposed and you have taken it upon yourself to do as much as possible with the RV method to help him "potentially" bring it to OU status, then that's OK. But Cripes, don't beat around the bush because this just pisses people off.

So what we need are the true blue facts, nothing else. YES or NO.

Watts,  i posted the conclusion based on our opinion, and didn't beat around the bush.

Yes we used Amp meters from the Grid and monitored the voltage.
6 amps 240 volts 50 hertz -PM
we pulsed the drop saw and hand saw out in 2-3 seconds into a bit of wood.
10 amps 240 volts 50 hertz- Alt
peaked at 11 amps

As stefan points out , you need a better duty cycle to go COP+1, and we will be testing that on the 15th. I stated to Stefan on the phone i feel its a COP device still at an R and D stage,
But his gravity wheel is not based on what we were shown -but YOU be the judge when you get the instruction and after you build it.

The globes would never could show his 'OU' idea, he always stated they de tune the system
pointing to the energy being stored in the flywheel as stated in the report.

So in the words of not beating around the bush.

As is, motor/gen/fly wheel set up not OU in the configuration he has
more investigation is needed to access the potential in our opinion based on my R and D into Gravity machines and the expertise of the engineers i am talking to ATM, i find that we can try other configs to EVALUATE the potential further and 'close the book'.

BUT

His gravity wheel looks as the only thing stopping it from moving continuous is the materials he used,
Instructions for all are nearly ready.