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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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tao

Quote from: -[marco]- on July 10, 2007, 01:42:53 AM
Quote from: tao on July 10, 2007, 01:32:22 AM
Quote from: -[marco]- on July 10, 2007, 01:27:02 AM
Well, i hope to see we will all be flying around in suspicious devices soon... :)

This brings me to the point where i am thinking about a normal galvanic insulated tranformer.
As we put an AC on the primary winding of the transformer, it induces a current in the secondary winding, but the major thing is, the electrons flowing in the secondary circuit has got nothing to do with the electrons running in the primary circuit.
They cannot reach each other since the circuits are isolated from each other.
So the thing is, the electrons running in the secondary circuit are not comming from the wall!!

They can't because they cannot reach the wall socked since they are not connected to it.

That gives me a new view on things and i need to think about it some more...
Pherhaps the electrons in the secondary circuit are the ones sitting in the wires already, i mean they have to come from somewhere don't they?
Then it would be a matter of only pumping them around.

...

Marco.


Exactly, and that is why THIS WORKS: http://rexresearch.com/markov/markov.htm

A transformer where there are TWO primaries that DIRECTLY oppose each other and CANCEL/NULL the magnetic flux, YET, on the ONE secondary, there is OUTPUT POWER...

Windings ratios mean NOTHING for Markov's transformer...

Thank you Tao, quite intresting.

This actually deals with cancelling the flux Litterally  :)
if this does work maybe we can tweak it so it put's out alot of free energy  :D

Marco.


Oh, indeed.......... my friend :)

otto

Hello all,

[Marco],

yeeeessss, you nailed it.

Otto

BEP

Quote from: tao on July 10, 2007, 01:32:22 AM
Exactly, and that is why THIS WORKS: http://rexresearch.com/markov/markov.htm
A transformer where there are TWO primaries that DIRECTLY oppose each other and CANCEL/NULL the magnetic flux, YET, on the ONE secondary, there is OUTPUT POWER...

Windings ratios mean NOTHING for Markov's transformer...

This is new? Really, I am surprized.
In winding transformers it is common to wind from one end to the other and return the opposite direction and continue. This allows lower grade cores because the cancelling flux allows the core to remain closer to the ideal state of 'idle' - like an unloaded transformer. In old fashioned switchboard class metering separate phases were wound on the same core to improve precision. All three phases came out on the secondaries. And yes, going by the above experience - I already believed you can have separate magnetic circuits traveling through the same 'conductor' just like electric current flow.
There must be a difference but I don't see it in the text.

@Otto and Grumpy

On the two watch thingy... may I suggest checking those dials while the thing is running. The one in the middle tends to 'race back in sync' when the power is removed  ;)

tao

Quote from: BEP on July 10, 2007, 01:53:56 AM
Quote from: tao on July 10, 2007, 01:32:22 AM
Exactly, and that is why THIS WORKS: http://rexresearch.com/markov/markov.htm
A transformer where there are TWO primaries that DIRECTLY oppose each other and CANCEL/NULL the magnetic flux, YET, on the ONE secondary, there is OUTPUT POWER...

Windings ratios mean NOTHING for Markov's transformer...

This is new? Really, I am surprized.
In winding transformers it is common to wind from one end to the other and return the opposite direction and continue. This allows lower grade cores because the cancelling flux allows the core to remain closer to the ideal state of 'idle' - like an unloaded transformer. In old fashioned switchboard class metering separate phases were wound on the same core to improve precision. All three phases came out on the secondaries. And yes, going by the above experience - I already believed you can have separate magnetic circuits traveling through the same 'conductor' just like electric current flow.
There must be a difference but I don't see it in the text.

@Otto and Grumpy

On the two watch thingy... may I suggest checking those dials while the thing is running. The one in the middle tends to 'race back in sync' when the power is removed  ;)



Have a read of the patent. That webpage just states some characteristics of Markov's setup.

BEP

Yes sir. I did.
I understood before reading the patent that the phase relationship of the two allowed each to cancel out the BEMF and the lagging current sine of the other. This reduced hysterisis and heat losses. The metering I mentioned used solid iron on the 4 1/2 inch models for the voltage sides of the Watt meters. I don't recall looking at the insides of the larger meters.

It is probably one of those things that have been going on for some time but being refined and announced, like a magnetic vortex. A paper was released just last week about how to do it with low power, in ambient air, with a series of well timed pulses. It was a university in Mexico. Someone else posted the link.
The point is, there is plenty of information on the web about others doing it in a similar way going back several years - and they post their findings as if it was something new. So I just read it and add the info. Usually it just clarifies.

Oops - the attachment isn't the one mentioned but it is another group that did the same thing thinking it was new.