Bird on a wire

[steve_whiss]

Hi...

aha! That "works in reverse" is new to me.

That means plus and minus swap over? So TPU is run identically just output power is backwards?

Pls post a link or cite where this is... I would like to see / read this for myself.

At first thought that that would break the gravity idea. But - it could be he means "start-up needs the magnet reversed". Don't know.

Clearly I need to know more about what SM says.


I for one am not sure SM does know 100% where the power comes from; IMHO he is a clever and successful experimenter "tuning for maximum smoke" i.e investigate / analyze and work towards biggest effect.


Dancing magnets- Completely depends on the input power. The kicker coil has thick windings suggesting that many amps are flowing - if that was all with 5mA I would be impressed, but suspect more like 5A. In which case - the kicker coil is doing all the work. But I do not know what the current flow was.

Also need to know scale, weights etc. From my own experience balanced magnets (as seen) are very easily wobbled - and may well have a mechanical resonance at 7.8Hz.

Would be good to see a completely different set of magnets doing same thing.

I suspect that the total power in the earth's magnetic field is huge, but also suspect it is very thinly spread out.

Note: Floyd Sweet did a lot of work with harmonics & magnets and would find resonances at different frequencies; the last set from memory he described as being resonant at 23Hz (what does that mean? Well, 3 x 7.8Hz...)

But he had others different.

can you please link me to that SM "reverses in the South" info?

Thanks,

Steve

[mflynn44]

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Now my question: did you try your device already on the earth south
site?<
YES NORBERT, WE DID TRY THEM SOUTH OF THE EQUATER, THEY
WORK IN REVERSE.
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY?

<quote>

from http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2383.0;attach=9211

[dutchy1966]

Mflynn,Steve,

Mflynn thanks forposting SM's phrase already.

Steve, see Mflynn's message. This is all he said about it.
Notice that it is not known what SM means with in reverse......


Everyone, at this very moment I'm copiling a numbered list of SM importyant phrases. This can become out central reference source in discussing possibilities arounf the tpu.

regards,

Robert

[steve_whiss]

Thanks Mflynn, dutchy (....that compilation will be very useful)

So now I'm reading that this device has a "top" and a "bottom" and that in Northern hemisphere it works "top up" and in Southern hemisphere it works "top down".

okay.... must think about this rather.

Gravitomagnetism looks like the only hope for the g view of operation, but why I do not know.

steve

[steve_whiss]

Brain crunch stalled with a few pointers.

The only way I can get this effect with a gravity approach - is if I give gravity a "line of force" property like magnetism has.

Don't like that.

OK, so what is different about North vs South? Lines of force spin in opposite directions.

Here I'm sticking to the ether view which has electrons as small twisters; in that model "lines of force" are the funnels (in 3D space there are 2: one up as well as one down).

Both spin very fast.

The point here is that LoF (so says the ether view) spin in the North um anti-clockwise, and in the South clockwise. There is an ether view which says - magnetism is just a disc of spinning space and each "pole" is the spin direction that you see depending on how you look at it. That's why no monopoles - because in a 3D universe (ours) you can use the 3rd D to go around a 2D object like a disk - and see the other side - which always spins the OTHER way hence can't have a monopole. For that - it'd have to look as if it was spinning the same way however you looked at it (impossible).

Anyhow.

Gravitomagnetism is the same idea but with gravity. Any large rotating body drags space sideways with rotation faster at the equator then at the poles. You end up with space spun just like with a magnet, but gravity powered. This is (ish) an effect called "frame dragging".

But no-one has ever suggested that there are gravity lines of force each with their own spin


The big thing against TPU being earth's field powered is energy density. Too low.

Perhaps a combo? The earth's Lines of Force (which rotate in opposite directions N vs. S) come into the earth as does gravity inflow.

OK, suppose these twist the gravity inflow (after all, I'm deflecting gravity with a small magnet).

That would make each infalling line of gravity on the diagram twist (twisted by the earth's magnetism) as well as coming in with a strong downward flow.

Not got to the end of it yet this is likely.... but, is it relevant?


I feel I'm making stuff up to fit the situation - rank speculation & I don't really like it.

Anyhow, it is reasonable that the earth's mag field "twiddles" infalling gravity. BUT why would that make a TPU run in reverse?

Aha! the small magnet might not pull a lump of infall lines to it, it would push them away. So you end up with the lump on the other side of the TPU + spinning in reverse direction. Now apply same rolling fields and... output is reversed.

That would mean, as you roll it about the device in the same-as-before way - it's like running a magnet about a coil for power - then flipping the magnet over, moving it about the coil in the identical way - & find get reverse out.

Whew.

Don't think I believe this yet.

...IF this is right (1/10 ?) then this is a new effect and a new discovery.

Infalling gravity is spun by magnetic fields as it comes in.

TEST: TPU will not work at equator.


Think I'll have to sleep on this one.

steve

<braincell wants rest!>