Self Charging Leyden

[argona369]

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[sm0ky2]

technician telling an engineer the water in the pipe runs form the sewer into the tower above.. im not going to argue about that... its pointless and has no effect on our discussion.

the Charge moves from + to - as does the spark.
you want to say the "ions" run the other way thats fine, flip all your polarites around and we have the same scenario.

[sm0ky2]

when you ionize a surface to apply a metallic ink/paint its the same thing as hooking two alligator clips to a piece of metal and aplying a charge. if you were able to somehow isolate that metal (diodes maybe?) the metal will hold that charge.

thats as simple as i can make it

[argona369]

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[sm0ky2]

yes that is a perfect explaination of conventional vs electron flow, as you see the only difference between the 2 is purely conceptual, labeling them backwards presents the exact same scenario. So to go back and forth over which way to label them is like the chicken/egg thing, but its good that we have identified this conceptual difference, as we were viewing the process in reverse form one another, drawing much confusion.


The measurements taken of charged object Neglect the time period during which the object is accumulating its charge. - as you see in the diagrams the charges are evenly dispursed. - However it says nothing about the time frame during charging, during which the charge is actually relocating itself around the surface of the material.

All they are looking at is the time AFTER charging, when the charge has nowhere to go, and is thus imobile.

If you examine the object WHILE it is charging, things are a bit different.

the charge does not apply itself instantly and evenly dispursed around the surface, form one point of contact. it has to move to get that way. plain and simple. you can even measure this movement by examining the lines of force as the object is charging.