The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[Kul_ash]

Quote" What do you think Lawrence's problems are?
Is he sane or is he cuckoo?"

Thanks for the welcome ChrisC! Much appreciated. For your answer:
Lets look at the facts for a moment:
He is a totally unknown and untraceable (it seems) scientist. Self proclaimed scientist. All attempts to verify even one part of his history have been unsuccessful? All the scientists he knows, all the students he has taught for thirty years? Nobody can verify anything for him? You cant get around that one, just to start.
Now, anyone with a theory can get their own thread. (For a while anyway, such as magnacoaster). And the internet makes men of mice (wannabe noodledick) because they can hide behind their keyboards. And when the going gets tough, they disappear and do it somewhere else. So really, the only thing you can judge a new theory by, is what they write in here. Larry has written tens of thousands of words, with absolutely no substance. None.
When Kul Ash gave it a good college try, he was thwarted. Not by science or physics, but by a dog and pony show in replies. Larry simply will not answer pertinent questions. Now, he will gladly lead you all over the place, and when you finally realize that the conclusion is total horses*it, he will go off on something else. When we tried to get an answer step by step, (kul ash) you can clearly see that he dodges. So dang obvious. Nobody can improve on this, Kul ash asked the right questions, 1,2, 3, and Larry led us to right HERE. Nowhere. Again. For the millionth time.
If a shrink read all of his totally redundant posts (remember 1135?) I think he or she would say that Larry has delusions of grandeur, he does not care one whit about any other human, and that this is TOTALLY for his own benefit, or mental well being. Period.
If he gave a damn about his fellow humans, he would not have used fake personalities to try and boost his own theories. And he DID. And still IS. When he first used devil and top gun and forever, he always attacked others. He berated us in fact. He accused us of being cia, and the like. That we had motives that were less than pure, towards him. That was what he used his personalities for, evil. Not good, not like in Vegas!!!!!! Thats why there are no emergency elvis impersonaters in Mission Control in Houston. Because the physicists DONT USE fake personalities on their blogs, web sites forums etc.
So we have one chinaman in a funny hat, out of 5 Billion chinapeople, who cant verify who he is, and nobody else can either. We are on post 50,000 because WE are stupid kindergartners, WE are the cia hookers and secret agents trying to steal the greatest gift to mankind since the ark.
Larry has admitted that he cant use a drill. He cant prove his water into energy theory. At all. Even with a simple hose and water wheel (remember that far back people?) We saw a video of a chinese girl swinging a bottle over her head, for a whole 15 seconds. Amazing. The four legged stool, Major todd hathaway....the simple pendulum, the hunai university where a million kids will be taught, the patents.....     no. No!!
One of the most telling things about human animals is what they do when cornered. Or when they perceive they are being cornered. Larry has attacked, deceived, dodged, and spun. My God has he spun. He created his own corner. He is a very unfocused man.
In his world we all have to believe something (and then what?) with no proof. If we dont he will beat us with it until we supposedly do. It is the exact, and I mean exact same thing that the Manchurian Candidate was about. Repeat the same ridiculous crap over and over. Until what though?
Larry has insulted us, by trying to deceive us with his deliberate misdirections. In words and his fake personalities, which I would say, may not be that fake in his own mind. But it is still dishonest. Period.
If he does not change his ways, I cannot see a good outcome for this thread. People will get even madder, (if possible) and someone will find a way to 'flush him out'. Its inevitable. Then he will disappear.
Sorry for the long post, is he nuts?  Not if his theory is in fact related to leading out people, (to see how far he can take them)  instead of energy:)

Nice post Larry. It is really frustrating to keep on reapeatig same thing all over again and again. He is just stuck to explain us Law of parellelogram of forces which we all learnt when we were in school. Once he says horizontal pull is perfectly horizontal, gives me some funny diagrams and when I show problems in them, he finds out the new theory that no matter what is the type of force that you have applied, string would release the free gravity! 
Now I ask him, how in the world passive force like the tension in string is doing active work of displacing perndulum, no answer from him. He shows me photographs of some one holding some strings with some force scales. In his analysis, he shows me tangential pull, which right from the start I kept on saying is responsible for vertical movement. He kept of denying it saying that he is applying pure horizontal force. Now he wants me to do the analysis of tangential force. He kept on saying so many times that "if there is no vertical mechanism available for pendulum to move then work must have been done by gravity." Now in his analysis, it clearly shows mechanism to lift bob vertically.
He uses pulley and tells me that if you apply force below the horizontal line, then you can not apply vertical force on pendulum to move up.  That was the funniest so far. When I pointed out the obvious, he showed me some diagram, in which bob was moving vertically but force was reamining on same elevation.  He then told me to apply magnetic pull to pull the bob horizontally. That was also very funnyt.  I finally got bored of showing him any mistake.
I asked him to show me analysis of initial position also, he now came up with tangential force which was not at all part of his any previous theories.
He just keeps repeating that we do not know zero level physics and no body can prove his theory wrong. Now what you call to such person? I am just having fun here.
As I told him before, day dreaming is the main food for losers. I think that might be just the case with this dude.

[Kul_ash]

Dear Kul_ash,

I am reproducing the diagram from ideal.zip ? Ideal Lee-Tseung Pull1.xls.  I shall call it Pendulum30.jpg.

This file illustrates the case of the Ideal Lee-Tseung Pull.  The notations used are different from the ones previously displayed.  The three forces are now illustrated as:
(1)   Weight of the bob = F1g = M 
(2)   Tension of the string = F1s
(3)   External Force applied tangentially = F1p

Note that the External Force applied is not horizontal.  It has an upward component contributing directly to lifting the bob upwards.  When the pendulum is displaced at any angle a, the three forces at equilibrium obey the following relationship:
(1)   F1p = Msin(a)
(2)   F1s = Mcos(a)

I hope the different notations have not confused you.  Can you follow me so far???

Dear Top_gun

You are confusing yourself and not me. Suddenly from where you have found this tangential pull? None of the analysis before showed it. What happened to your pulley, magentic force etc.? So all that was crap?

[Kul_ash]

And as for the slides. . .

he he he.  . Really funny and too appropriate for the discussion! 

[hansvonlieven]

Dear Top Gun,

I like your statements.  I have more and more confidence in your technical analysis.  You can teach.

Do not worry if some forum members cannot understand.  I just treat them as seeds on hard rock or on path to be stepped on. Some of them are professional paid debunkers. They are paid not to understand.

Continue the good work.

I would love such a job. Trouble is, no-one pays anyone to debunk crap. Drat, missed out again. I could do with a couple of extra bucks. :-(

Hans von Lieven

[Koen1]

That's what I'm saying Hans, let's set up our own proessional debunking company
People who need something debunked can hire us and we'll debunk whatever they want however they
want it at a reasonable price.
For all the time we've wasted on Tseungs nonsense we could have been making millions!

... or not perhaps, as people don't usually get paid at all for debunking anything...
And unfortunately the CIA doesn't, nor do any of its little brother agencies, hire and
pay people to spend months debunking and debating a stupid OU idea...
Not in this reality, anyway...
Perhaps Tseung can give us the address of the "The Likes" agency, perhaps they
do pay people to talk about Tseungs total nonsense? What's their website and
how much do they pay per hour, Tseung?

Tseung sure has some weird thougts, beside his magic pendulum...
I mean, anyone who is in his 50s now and actually grown up and lived in China
must have had quite a gulp of the cultural revolution etc, and should have been
indoctrinated so much with propaganda about the peoples republic, that he
should have felt extremely patriotic and considered all the other Chinese people
his family alrady, long before this recent earthquake...
Makes one wonder... Is he really an old Chinese guy? If so, then why does he not
seem to think very typically Chinese?
Chinese government was more worries about the nuclear facilities in Sechuan than about
the thousands of people... a nice example of the great humanitarian attitude of China.