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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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ltseung888

Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 24, 2007, 06:23:28 PM
G'day Lawrence and all,

I asked you a specific question, the above post only gives generalities but answers nothing.

Here it is again.

G'day Lawrence and all,


Assume that such energy can be drained or supplied within x sec, power  in Newton-meter/second (watt)"         
4884.15252      if x =    3


and

The Energy drained or supplied at such high rotational rates is very different from what is experienced in daily life.

Regards,

Lawrence Tseung


What data lead to this rather wild speculation? What kind of energy are you talking about and how do you arrive at the formula?

Hans von Lieven


I believe your one specific question is the underlined.  The specific answer is - data is from the Published Liang Xingren China Patent.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

hansvonlieven

Sorry Lawrence,

What I have seen of that is little more than fanciful speculation. There is no scientific basis to this patent and most others for that matter.

I want to see an experiment that can be duplicated and will verify the data, everything else is a pipedream. Anyone can quote an obscure patent in a foreign language as a source. If you were to believe the hundreds of perpetual motion machines and magnet motors that have been patented as proof and accepted their validity we would not have the kind of technology we enjoy. The patent registers are full of unworkable devices.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

ltseung888

Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 24, 2007, 09:30:54 PM
Sorry Lawrence,

What I have seen of that is little more than fanciful speculation. There is no scientific basis to this patent and most others for that matter.

I want to see an experiment that can be duplicated and will verify the data, everything else is a pipedream. ***You will be able to buy or rent a Product from China.  The preliminary time is before end of 2008.*** Anyone can quote an obscure patent in a foreign language as a source. If you were to believe the hundreds of perpetual motion machines and magnet motors that have been patented as proof and accepted their validity we would not have the kind of technology we enjoy. The patent registers are full of unworkable devices.

Hans von Lieven

Dear Hans,

I have more confidence in the Liang Xingren patent than many others because:

(1) I spent a day talking to Dr. Liang myself.  There were much good exchange of ideas and experience.  Dr. Liang is much more intelligent than most members in this forum.  He could understand and interact intelligently with me!

(2) Prof. Woo, one of the retired top scientists who helped to develop the Chinese Atomic Bomb, confirmed that he examined the car and drove it.  He was satisfied that it was not a hoax.  He took the information to Harvard and MIT universities in early 2005.  Prof. Woo is working on a Pulse Motor Cosmic Energy Machine himself.  I had confirmation from a friend at MIT that: ?This is worth looking into.?

(3) Lee and I were at Tsing Hua University and confirmed that they did examine the car.  Dr. Liang even had a meeting with the then President of China. The Professors and Researchers agreed that the car moved but could not accept the Dr. Liang theory of Ying-Yang.  If Dr. Liang had said that he could not explain the source of energy and asked for cooperation, he would have already obtained support from the top Academics in the 1990s.

(4) Lee Cheung Kin spent one week working with Mr. Chao Ching San who improved the Liang Car.  Lee drove the car himself.  He took various readings when the car was going downhill, on level road and in climbing up slopes.  He was satisfied that the bank of batteries kicked in only on climbing up slopes.  The engine recharged the batteries on downhill or on level roads.  The most important statement he made was that the charging of batteries was adjustable.  The Officially Certified number of 8.02 KWH per 100 kilometers could be improved to 0 or even negative.  (He had the air conditioning on while driving the car.)  The reason for not fully charging the batteries is political ? getting the car certified as an electric car for production. 

I know that it is frustrating for you not to have a working Over Unity Car, Generator or a Toy to play with now.  If you are in Europe, close to Hungary, please visit the EBM machine (http://www.gammamanger.com).  My contact in China who went to visit the laboratory was convinced that it was no hoax. 

*** I do not know your background.  If you were a professor at a top university in the World, you might be invited as a guest to visit the Energy Research Laboratories in China.  Lee Cheung Kin saw many prototypes including those of Newman, Bedini etc.  He said that there were teams on every well-known OU inventions.  You can always wait for the actual products. I am stating the facts now.  The Proof will be in the Products. ***

I am glad that your posts give me a chance to clarify the many subtle points.  Please do more.  Ms. Forever Yuen will do her magnetic pendulum and the Wang experiments shortly.  These two experiments will become ?classics? for all Cosmic Energy Research in the future.  We want to benefit the World with our knowledge.

Regards,

Lawrence Tseung
Strong Pulses or Comments from intelligent skeptics Lead Out more detailed replies.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

hansvonlieven

G'day Lawrence,

How many times do I have to tell you, I am not interested in anecdotal evidence and academic credentials, I simply want to see something verifiable.

Very little in the way of usable technology has come from academia. They get their Nobel prizes for explaining what someone else has achieved not for having done it, as a rule.

Tell your people in China, if they exist, to publish an experiment that verifies their claims, and their peers, perhaps even including me, will give them credibility. Until then it is just a lot of hot air.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

ltseung888

Seeds on fertile land?

Got a phone call from a Provincial Chinese Official.

Official: ?I got your information via the Internet.  The Lee-Tseung theory and the various Cosmic Energy Inventions interested us.  We would like to work with you.?

Tseung: ?You mean that you actually read the posts on the Over Unity and Forum.go-here.nl?  They are in English.?

Official: ?We have young scientists who can read and write English.  We tried to contact Dr. Liang Xingren without success.  (He does not use the Internet!) How is you technology compared with his??

Tseung: ?We focus on the theoretical aspects of Cosmic Energy Machines.  Our theory can be applied to over 100 OU inventions in China and probably another 200 OU inventions Worldwide.  We can explain and improve all these published inventions.  You should contact Lee Cheung Kin as he is in charge of all development within China.?

Official: ?We are aware of Mr. Lee Cheung Kin.  Some of our scientists worked with him years ago in the Military Laboratories.  We shall fly to Hong Kong and discuss possible cooperation opportunities.?

Lawrence Tseung
Internet Posts Lead Out high pulse heart beat from Provincial Officials.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.