The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[hansvonlieven]

G'day all,

Here is another oldie but goodie on the subject. (notice that this is his answer to a specific question)

Lawrence has learned a lot from these postings as they were too transparent. That is why he switched tactics and posts as a number of people now rather than having "conversations' with them in his posts.

Hans von Lieven

Hi ITseung888

It can you to post a diagram of this such one cosmic device really working ?

regards

The scene is Richard and Nancy at the home of Tseung.

Richard: "Looks like some members of the overunity.com forum are interested in the Sung device.  I saw that 40 minute video and was convinced that the device worked.  You can use rapidshare as the attach file limit here is only 12MB."

Tseung: "That is not a problem.  I shall zip the 96 MB file.  It should be read with Windows Media Player.   Before I do that, I shall quote the warning from the Inventor and the Chinese Police.  That video was used by some unauthorized persons to solicit funds.  It MUST NOT be used for that purpose again.  It may be used for scientific discussions only."

Nancy: "Can you repeat the story of why Sung gave up the development of his inventions?  The video seemed to indicate excellent working prototypes?"

Tseung smiled: "I shall repeat the story one more time.  Note that I use the term story because I was not personally involved.  The story was that Dr. Liang Sing Yan heard about the Sung Invention and wanted to use that invention to recharge his battery car.  They worked together for a few months.

Dr. Liang then got the brilliant idea that he could rotate the inner cylinder with ICs.  He did not need to use the permanent magnets and the complex setup of the Sung invention.  He succeeded.  All the potential investors for Sung changed ship.  Sung was obviously unhappy.  However, as a scientist, he accepted the fact that his invention was not as good.  He abandoned further development on his devices.

We also have the video on the Dr. Liang Car.  That video was definitely used by criminals to solicit funds.  Some of these criminals are in jail now. 

Mr. Chao did a big improvement to overcome the hill-climbing drawback of the Liang car using banks of batteries.  That improved car traveled 1,500 kilometers to Beijing with 8 newspapers and televisions following the journey in 2006.  We have two videos.  One of them was done by the Chinese Official Television Station CCTV.

I shall post these videos when appropriate.  Here is the first one.  It will be available for 90 days.  The download time is approximately 1 hour.  The link is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/48650021/Sung.ZIP.html

Lawrence Tseung
The third generation Cosmic Energy Machines Lead Out abandonment of the first and second generation.

[Eddy Currentz]

@Eddy Currentz: WHAT experiment? I mean, I haven't actually read any proper experiment being suggested by mr. Tseung at all! I see a lot of claims, a lot of talk about his spreadsheet, and even an "experiment" that proves that 2 people can push a chair and make it move... But none of that proves that mr. Tseung actually has something here. If he has a proper "theory", as he claims, and has a formal physics education, it should be easy to present a simple experiment that proves his hypothesis to be worthy of the name "theory".
So where is it? Where is this experiment? Well?

Talk is cheap, and as far as I can determine that's all Mr. Tseung presents: a lot of talk, claims of "free energy", but nothing to substantiate it with except for a spreadsheet containing doubfull mixtures of classical physics formulae...

I have no idea what Mr. Tseung has built or accomplished as far as an actual machine goes, and I don't really care. I don't believe, or disbelieve what he claims because I haven't done all the experiments yet. Like everything else I read about, I keep it as information to compare to other pieces of information. When the dots start lining up I know I have something interesting.
A pulsed flywheel is not unique to Mr. Tseung. John Bedini was getting free energy from a machine he designed in 1984 using a pulsed flywheel. I have also read other accounts of anomalous and unique results from flywheels.
I can't say conclusively that energy can be gained from a pulsed flywheel, but I do think it's possible.  Enough people have had similar results to make it worth looking into.

[Koen1]

Okay, so basically what you're saying is that OTHER people have come up with devices that use pulses and rotation, like Bedini, and for some reason that gives credibility to mr. Tseungs claims?
Not it does not.
mr Tseung still does not actually present a theory at all. He presents a hypothesis consisting of an accumulation of statements and assumptions that all free energy/over unity researches in the past have also suggested or said, coupled to a spreadsheet, with no experimental backing of his own at all.

And I fail to see how mr Tseungs claim that his "theory" which does not actually explain anything is somehow supported by these interesting inventions MADE BY OTHER PEOPLE can in any way be considered to be an "experiment".
Sure, you could replicate a Bedini motor. But then you're only replicated a Bedini motor, you have not done any experiment proposed by mr Tseung.
Besides, did not Bedinis motor capture the back mmf from the moving motor, acting as a dynamo in that phase of operation? I believe it does... No mysterious "gravity conversion" going on, just the effects of inertia and mmf...
There is NO experiment that mr Tseung has presented, which proves first of all that it is his theory, and second of all that the theory has any basis in reality.

Now with the truth coming out that he has been multi-accounting and discussing things with his own multis on the Steorn forum, it is clear he is blowing his own horn and keeps repeating himself on different fora. It also seems like he is intentionally creating confusion and being unclear in his statements. And when push comes to shove he never has a good reply to questions of anyone except his own multiple personalities. To others he just keeps repeating himself, and accusing them of unwillingness or lack of understanding, instead of actually explaining things properly.
Does anyone hear F-R-A-U-D? No? Maybe H-O-A-X then?

[hansvonlieven]

Perhaps just some poor old soul with a bee in his bonnet.

Hans von Lieven

[Eddy Currentz]

Okay, so basically what you're saying is that OTHER people have come up with devices that use pulses and rotation, like Bedini, and for some reason that gives credibility to mr. Tseungs claims?
Not it does not.
mr Tseung still does not actually present a theory at all. He presents a hypothesis consisting of an accumulation of statements and assumptions that all free energy/over unity researches in the past have also suggested or said, coupled to a spreadsheet, with no experimental backing of his own at all.

And I fail to see how mr Tseungs claim that his "theory" which does not actually explain anything is somehow supported by these interesting inventions MADE BY OTHER PEOPLE can in any way be considered to be an "experiment".
Sure, you could replicate a Bedini motor. But then you're only replicated a Bedini motor, you have not done any experiment proposed by mr Tseung.
Besides, did not Bedinis motor capture the back mmf from the moving motor, acting as a dynamo in that phase of operation? I believe it does... No mysterious "gravity conversion" going on, just the effects of inertia and mmf...
There is NO experiment that mr Tseung has presented, which proves first of all that it is his theory, and second of all that the theory has any basis in reality.

Now with the truth coming out that he has been multi-accounting and discussing things with his own multis on the Steorn forum, it is clear he is blowing his own horn and keeps repeating himself on different fora. It also seems like he is intentionally creating confusion and being unclear in his statements. And when push comes to shove he never has a good reply to questions of anyone except his own multiple personalities. To others he just keeps repeating himself, and accusing them of unwillingness or lack of understanding, instead of actually explaining things properly.
Does anyone hear F-R-A-U-D? No? Maybe H-O-A-X then?

So, all the inventors you have studied are models of mental equanimity? Did Tesla's penchant for calculating the volume of the food he was about to consume, or any of his other eccentricities, detract from his brilliance?
Bedini's 1984 "Watson" machine did not capture the "back mmf" from the motor. The motor was a 12 VDC unit which was driven from a commutator for a little less than half a rotation. This then provided a mechanical pulse to the flywheel, which then drove a magneto. The output of the magneto was fed back to the battery during the time it was not driving the motor.
Let's see... commutator pulses motor, motor pulses flywheel, flywheel drives generator, generator charges battery.  Sounds a lot like Chas Campbell's setup to me. It also sounds a lot like what Mr. Tseung is talking about.
Bedini gave the technology of the machine to a guy named Jim Watson. Watson built a big old replica that worked quite well. Just look at the size of the flywheel he used (bottom photo). The goons got to Watson and that was the end of that.