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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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dutchy1966

Quote from: HissyfitNihilism on September 27, 2007, 03:59:51 AM
Quote from: ashtweth_nihilisti on September 27, 2007, 02:15:28 AM
Given to me by a friend

I have wound one version of the bifilar inductors to go in our inductor test bank switch box.
See this image - I believe it explains it quite well. It also explains the benefits of using bifilar inductors over standard inductors.I calculated ages ago that you would need a huge inductance to get the WFC cell stack to resonate! Bifilar may do the trick.

http://overunity.ifrance.com/Magnetricity_com%20___%20NEOGEN%20Dynamo%20Project_fichiers/NEOGEN_BIFILAR.jpg

I am saying that the file Astweth references regarding bifilar winding of inductors is full of absolute nonsense and garbage.  That's all.  The claims are that a 250,000X increase in energy storage capacity is made by using the same number of turns, same diameter and length on same core.  In truth, there is no increase in energy storage and a lowering of the self-resonant frequency due to increased effect of interwinding capacitance. 

Ashtweth is a believer in magic and knows so little about science that he is prone to believe and pass on as fact any crap he hears.  The man has no discernment; no judgement of his own on technical matters.  He surrounds himself with charlatan magicians, all of whom talk plenty big stuff but none produce anything but mumbo jumbo.

Hi HissyfitNihilism,

The bifilar coil shown on the Neogen drawing is the basically the same as the one Tesla got a patent granted on. In there it is stated how the 250000 times energy storage is created.  (the tesla patent is even shown on that website).
I'm not saying wether it is right or wrong, but if you say it is wrong you apparently know something Tesla didn't......

Regards

Robert

dutchy1966

Quote from: PULSED)ReverseH/OfuelcelI on September 27, 2007, 04:30:45 AM
Hello everyone,

For you bifilar chokes, you want high resistance; you won?t get the type of high resistance you need. 26 AWG a copper wire is too thick, 36 AWG is to thick, for maximum resistance use 44 AWG. Or anything above, and use lots of it. 2000 foot for an ideal choke with the kind of capacitors you guys are using, also use a ferrite rod for a core.

The thinner the more you can wind on the rod, plus the thinner the more resistance!

Thanks for that video Hydro!

Peace!
;)

Hi,

I like to add to this:

If you read Stans technical brief you will find he later used SS wire for the chokes because it has higher resistance. This higher resistance imparts electron flow further (travelling IN the wire) and permits therefore higher voltage potential (traveling AROUND the wire).

Regards

Robert

btw I've got my SS 316L tubes now and will start building a cell this week.

dutchy1966

Quote from: Erfinder on September 27, 2007, 04:43:19 AM
Hi,

Please forgive my intrusion, I just wanted to offer the following.

I take interest in noting that no one has recognized that the production of ozone by high voltage discharge is a "Cold Fusion" process on the molecular level!  It is known that very little input energy is required for the production of enormous amounts of ozone gas. 

Lets assume that an environment of air and and environment of water are one and the same, the only difference being the density of the medium in question. Tesla indicated in his ozone patent, that he had devised a means by which gasses other than ozone could be produced, unfortunately he never revealed how this device could be adapted to produce the other gasses, or did he. 

Quote:

568,177 Apparatus for Producing Ozone

In my present improvement I have utilized appliances of this general character under conditions and in combination with certain instrumentalities, hereinafter described, which enable me to produce, without difficulty and at very slight expense, ozone in any desired quantities. 

I would state the apparatus which I have devised for this purpose is capable of other and highly important uses of a similar nature, but for the purposes of the present case I deem it sufficient to describe its operation and effects when used for the purpose of generating ozone.

End Quote

It must be remembered Tesla wanted to burn/combust atmospheric nitrogen, and successful in doing so, the frequency and potential of the current required for this was hundreds of times greater than those required for the production of ozone. 

In the open atmosphere the circuit in this patent 568,177 produces ozone, in a different environment.....

The bifilar winding is very special arrangement.  It was around long before the birth of Tesla, he was simply the one to recognize its importance and significance in the sphere of electricity.  Its true power and purpose can only be demonstrated when it is properly wound, and placed in a circuit specifically designed for its use, and therein lies the problem.  There are too many theories as to the bifilar coils purpose! 


Regards



Hi Erfinder,

No need to apologize, we're glad to see you here! Hope you can help us further. Seeing as I'm not familiar with the ozone patent it seems to me that tesla was hinting to something else.
Maybe you can let us know if there is anything important in the mentioned patent that can be useful for our quest. That being, upping the voltage potential and at the same time restricting electron flow through the cell.
If useful would you post the patent here?

Of course any other ideas or suggestions from you are welcome!

thanx.

Robert

PULSED)ReverseH/OfuelcelI

As the skeptic (crankheliyus) stalks his prey, unsuspecting it itself is being stalked, moves in for the kill. But unknown by the skeptic, the formers have picked up his strong scent.

They are scattering, and in the distance a faint war cry can be heard, ?laws of thermodynamics? he screams!

And in his last ditch efforts he whines, ?you are wrong, because you are just saying what some one else said and believe? not know that they themselves have fallen to this silent terror, and so this creature of the night, because he has nothing more useful to do, continues to feed on other peoples blood.     


scotty1

Hehehehe....shifting and dividing and concentrating.....mmmmm..heard those words before...
Shaking the medium.....natures way....
Yes...i can do that.  ;D