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Very legit and promising desgin!

Started by skycaptain, September 07, 2007, 04:27:54 PM

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Low-Q

I believe it is one mistake on the machine. The rotor magnet, I think is labeled with opposite polarity, than the actual polarity. A video shown before all magnets was attached, proved the wrong labeling of the rotor magnet. Watch this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3530783729514972071. After 30-35 seconds the rotor is defenitly prevented to enter the stator magnets, but the polarity labeled, should force the rotor magnet towards the stator magnets.

Vidar

skycaptain

Well this may be a mistake in labeling in that particular run...

That was supposedly 2 days before the cog free setup was taped.
Maybe he was still fine tuning his design or just messing around, until two days later he got the right set up.
But even so that rotor still pulls itself through 2 cycles with a decent push before it cogs, he is definitely on the right track.
Once my garage is finally organized and clean in the next couple days, i'll start constructing my own design, so far i dont see why it wont work.....

Automan

Quote from: nightlife on September 25, 2007, 09:11:39 PM
We will not be able to get funding and if we did, it would still never make it to the market place. Some may even be killed as many others already have been.
I did a lot of research and I have found that big money will not allow anyone to jeopardize their big profits.


Sure you did. what did you "research", all the claims about the evil "men in black" that swoop down and steal the designs from scam artists like Newman?

All that so called "big money" crap about "them" preventing anyone from jeopardizing their big profits is B.S. as well.
Guess what? Global warming is a load of B.S. too.

Nobody can invent a perpetual motion machine because it simply violates the first and second and third laws of thermal dynamics. These laes are 1) you can't win. 2) You can't break even. 3)   If you play the game, you're sure to loose.  It's really that simple.

Ludicrousnesses such as free energy, alien abductions, cold fusion, UFO's, or perpetual motion are what is known as Pseudoscience, or in other terms "That which is not so".

There are three levels of pseudoscience:                               

    * Tain't likley, McGee. 
    * Boy, a whole flock of 'em flew over that time.
    * What are they on, and where do we get some of it?

A number of people have made a decent living ripping off (usually elderly) investors, promising they will get rich on free energy. Here are the most familliar trechnics they use. Note carefully how many of them you are  repeating.

A) Be very careful to have any investors forfeit their right to legal action any way possible. - this can be a last minute statement to sign, often you can hide silencing terms in a nondisclosure agreement.

B) Start with outrageous enough claims to filter the more skeptical people out as early as possible. But, be careful about making too many bogus scientific claims, or you may find self-righteous skeptics trying to debunk you - if this happens, tell your followers they (or any critics) are part of the conspiracy - maybe nitpick at fine points of their arguments, but don't ever respond to their main thrust.

C) Claim you are not in it for the money, just to save humanity. Say you have already been offered huge sums, but want to sell it to the little guy (i.e. the gullible guy). Try to market it to older mid-western Christian farmers - they've always bought in in the past. Build excitement for something wonderful.

D) Focus investors attention away from evaluating claims on technical grounds. The following distractions are recommended:

1. get them involved in political issues. Convince them you have some large secretive benefactor.
2. focus their attention on an elaborate multi-generational international conspiracy which has kept everyone pitching free energy to fail. Make your audience outraged against the conspiracy, yet empowered that they can finally overcome it by giving you money.
3. talk about your valiant battles with the patent office or some government bureaucracy (that always warms people up)
4. get into religion quick (religious people are already taught to have faith) -appear to have God on your side
5. get people to focus on your theory rather than measurable evidence.
6. claim it already has been proven so you need not offer any proof   Tell them you are done proving it and need big money to start mass production.
7. Write an autobiography (self-published, of course) where you can "control" the facts. When someone questions your shady past simply say, "Buy my book and learn the truth about what REALLY happened." Naive people won't question the "facts" because, after all, it's in a book.  If your book is long enough, you may mesmerize them.

E) You must focus on the big conspiracy. It's very important to make people believe in the big conspiracy - because that's your excuse for past failures, present lack of evidence, the critics, and future delays. Locking horns with bureaucrats or the scientific community can distract from your lack of evidence and get you great free press. Make people believe exciting claims of bad guys wanting to steal or bury your ideas. - then claim you will destroy your prototypes and records rather than let them fall into the hands of the bad guys.

F)  Be bold, sell books, consider taking out full page ad or get on the radio. People will feel that something this out in the open can not possibly be a fly by night Con. The most successful cons are ones lasting for a few years not the quick cons.

G) Watch your target market, Go after people predisposed to believing in conspiracy theories such as the militias, JFK conspiracy, and UFO cover-up groups.

H) If you are forced to demonstrate some device, consider the following important tips: bore the skeptics right out of the room with long discourses on elementary science; claim you have some adjustments to make, yet; say "it worked yesterday"; run your machine for just a few seconds and move on to some other important point. - or do the Newman trick of openly hooking up input power and just promising it's less than what comes out.

i)  A good final lesson, if the heat from impatient investors and public scrutiny gets too much, do what Keely did - just walk away from it all (just claim it doesn't work because the remaining people don't understand it) , and just start some new investment scheme for some other amazing claim.

J) operate from a state which is soft on fraud and organized crime.

K) Get people to pay around 20 - 100$ for "information kits" or video tapes.  Once they've paid that much, it's easier to get them to start paying more money.

L) Discourage investors from contacting each other and cover up evidence of earlier bitter investors.

M) Get followers to sell your stuff to their friends, family and churches - try multilevel schemes - promise they will get rich by commissions on getting others to invest (who cares if this destroys their friendships).

N)  Be open to having newer investors buy out older more impatient investors.  Always promise a disgruntled investor that someone else will soon buy him out.

O)  Don't be afraid of lawsuits, if OJ got off so can you - they can be one more excuse for delays. Most attorney generals will just bluff with a cease and desist order and then move on to someone else.

P) Don't be afraid of investors defecting, most of them will feel too stupid to go public with their story - even if some do start successful attacks on you, just say they are agents of the big conspiracy.

Q) Jealously guard your list of investors, a good sucker list is worth its weight in gold and can even be sold to other con men.

R)  Don't be afraid of the press, they don't usually evaluate outlandish claims, and even if they do - your audience won't likely listen.

S) Be open to 'red-lining' your investors (i.e.: tell them if they don't come up with just a little more money, they will lose it all)

T)  Be ready to move to another state with corrupt or weak DA's - if you are done 'harvesting' your initial area. (i.e.: New Jersey is known as an east coast haven for the mob, prostitution and home repair scams)  Most states don?t bother to track people down across state lines.

U)  If you are really bold, you could give commissions for investors to find more investors. Better to also make others responsible for building the machines - it buys you time and gives you another person to blame.

V) Explain complex subjects simply, (leaving out lots of details) so that the mark feels as though he understands the subject well enough to make informed decisions.

How to deal with skeptics and detractors:

There are a number of approaches to deal with self righteous people who like to point out your flaws of reason, lists of previous victims, etc. out on the internet:

    *  Label your detractors as CIA agents, or stupid or part of the great conspiracy.
    * say they are unqualified unless they are experts in your crazy theory.
    * try to restrict your message to newsletters and limited forums where the skeptical voice can be filtered out.
    * in a public forum deaden the audiences interest with tons of distracting counter "information".
    * try to delete their pages from the search engines, or bury their objections in enough distractions to make people avoid the debate
    * trying threatening your detractors with lawsuits - it will make some of them shut up
    * give up and only try to market to people too old or stupid to get on the internet.


Here's a good site for aditional reading:
http://www.watchingyou.com/woowoo.html

It's a called "How to be an internet woo- woo.

To be a proper woo-woo, you must follow these rules:

1.  Never look for the simplest, most obvious cause of something. Refrain from mentioning Occam's Razor (it's your nemesis).

2.  Always favor the conspiracy angle over the boring angle. Mundane explanations (like saying that Roswell  was a balloon) are for dullards and government drones. If you want to sleep with that curvaceous new-age chick, don't tell her you think astrology is bogus! (Non woo-woos may benefit from that advice temporarily).

3.  Don't accept mainstream science unless it's something you've believed in for years (like gravity).

4.  Try to answer as few direct questions as possible. Always obfuscate and try to sound learned. Mimic Richard Hoagland's style and you'll go far.

5.  Use "what if" scenarios to change the subject whenever possible. If you linger on one topic too long you may be asked to provide annoying things like "proof." Don't let that happen! Consult an evolutionist  if you need practice with subject-changing.

6.  If you're cornered and asked for proof of something, always tell the person that they "can't disprove" your claims. Many of them will just walk away shaking their heads, which of course means they agree with you. A side-to-side head shake could be the same as a vertical nod. Anything is possible, after all.

7.  Memorize all the sci-babble terms used in the Star Trek series and Tom Bearden's web site. They are very useful if you get cornered by a skeptic, and you need to come up with some sort of "scientific" explanation. e.g., Inertial Dampeners, Scalar EMP  Woodpecker grid.

8.     When all else fails, start asking hypothetical questions that have nothing to do with the actual debate. If your opponent chooses to ignore your pointless questions and remains on topic, repeat your meaningless question(s) over and over. This will make any Believers in the audience think that your opponent is evading the issue.

9.      Accuse your opponent of being a liar, or try some other tactic that will (hopefully) make him angry. If he responds in kind to your endless taunts, change the subject to his anger, and accuse him of name calling. If he accuses you of provoking him, then you have changed the subject of the debate. If he stays on topic, keep the heat up. The Believers in the audience will forgive the worst verbal attacks you use, but they will think even the mildest replies he makes to you are personal attacks that undermine his argument.

10.      Use the word quantum in a sentence, despite not knowing what it means. For a more impressive effect, use it with the name of your favorite superstition - "quantum dowsing" sure sounds mighty serious.

11.     Two more words: Paradigm shift.

12.     Always claim that the other guy is "closed-minded" and that you're as free-thinking as a newborn baby. Other woo-woos love the concept of "open-mindedness" and will take you into their inner circle without question. They have no tolerance for those "mean old nasty" types who demand evidence for everything.

13.     Drink heavily while posting.

14.     You must believe that the word "anomaly" means proof of paranormal activity.

15.    Use the word "anomaly" as often as possible.

and on and on.


Just remember, if it sounds too good to be true, It's probably B.S.


http://louminatti.blogspot.com/




jeffc

Quote from: Automan on September 26, 2007, 11:20:45 PM
Quote from: nightlife on September 25, 2007, 09:11:39 PM
We will not be able to get funding and if we did, it would still never make it to the market place. Some may even be killed as many others already have been.
I did a lot of research and I have found that big money will not allow anyone to jeopardize their big profits.


Sure you did. what did you "research", all the claims about the evil "men in black" that swoop down and steal the designs from scam artists like Newman?

All that so called "big money" crap about "them" preventing anyone from jeopardizing their big profits is B.S. as well.
Guess what? Global warming is a load of B.S. too.

Nobody can invent a perpetual motion machine because it simply violates the first and second and third laws of thermal dynamics. These laes are 1) you can't win. 2) You can't break even. 3)   If you play the game, you're sure to loose.  It's really that simple.

Ludicrousnesses such as free energy, alien abductions, cold fusion, UFO's, or perpetual motion are what is known as Pseudoscience, or in other terms "That which is not so".

There are three levels of pseudoscience:                               

    * Tain't likley, McGee. 
    * Boy, a whole flock of 'em flew over that time.
    * What are they on, and where do we get some of it?

A number of people have made a decent living ripping off (usually elderly) investors, promising they will get rich on free energy. Here are the most familliar trechnics they use. Note carefully how many of them you are  repeating.

A) Be very careful to have any investors forfeit their right to legal action any way possible. - this can be a last minute statement to sign, often you can hide silencing terms in a nondisclosure agreement.

B) Start with outrageous enough claims to filter the more skeptical people out as early as possible. But, be careful about making too many bogus scientific claims, or you may find self-righteous skeptics trying to debunk you - if this happens, tell your followers they (or any critics) are part of the conspiracy - maybe nitpick at fine points of their arguments, but don't ever respond to their main thrust.

C) Claim you are not in it for the money, just to save humanity. Say you have already been offered huge sums, but want to sell it to the little guy (i.e. the gullible guy). Try to market it to older mid-western Christian farmers - they've always bought in in the past. Build excitement for something wonderful.

D) Focus investors attention away from evaluating claims on technical grounds. The following distractions are recommended:

1. get them involved in political issues. Convince them you have some large secretive benefactor.
2. focus their attention on an elaborate multi-generational international conspiracy which has kept everyone pitching free energy to fail. Make your audience outraged against the conspiracy, yet empowered that they can finally overcome it by giving you money.
3. talk about your valiant battles with the patent office or some government bureaucracy (that always warms people up)
4. get into religion quick (religious people are already taught to have faith) -appear to have God on your side
5. get people to focus on your theory rather than measurable evidence.
6. claim it already has been proven so you need not offer any proof   Tell them you are done proving it and need big money to start mass production.
7. Write an autobiography (self-published, of course) where you can "control" the facts. When someone questions your shady past simply say, "Buy my book and learn the truth about what REALLY happened." Naive people won't question the "facts" because, after all, it's in a book.  If your book is long enough, you may mesmerize them.

E) You must focus on the big conspiracy. It's very important to make people believe in the big conspiracy - because that's your excuse for past failures, present lack of evidence, the critics, and future delays. Locking horns with bureaucrats or the scientific community can distract from your lack of evidence and get you great free press. Make people believe exciting claims of bad guys wanting to steal or bury your ideas. - then claim you will destroy your prototypes and records rather than let them fall into the hands of the bad guys.

F)  Be bold, sell books, consider taking out full page ad or get on the radio. People will feel that something this out in the open can not possibly be a fly by night Con. The most successful cons are ones lasting for a few years not the quick cons.

G) Watch your target market, Go after people predisposed to believing in conspiracy theories such as the militias, JFK conspiracy, and UFO cover-up groups.

H) If you are forced to demonstrate some device, consider the following important tips: bore the skeptics right out of the room with long discourses on elementary science; claim you have some adjustments to make, yet; say "it worked yesterday"; run your machine for just a few seconds and move on to some other important point. - or do the Newman trick of openly hooking up input power and just promising it's less than what comes out.

i)  A good final lesson, if the heat from impatient investors and public scrutiny gets too much, do what Keely did - just walk away from it all (just claim it doesn't work because the remaining people don't understand it) , and just start some new investment scheme for some other amazing claim.

J) operate from a state which is soft on fraud and organized crime.

K) Get people to pay around 20 - 100$ for "information kits" or video tapes.  Once they've paid that much, it's easier to get them to start paying more money.

L) Discourage investors from contacting each other and cover up evidence of earlier bitter investors.

M) Get followers to sell your stuff to their friends, family and churches - try multilevel schemes - promise they will get rich by commissions on getting others to invest (who cares if this destroys their friendships).

N)  Be open to having newer investors buy out older more impatient investors.  Always promise a disgruntled investor that someone else will soon buy him out.

O)  Don't be afraid of lawsuits, if OJ got off so can you - they can be one more excuse for delays. Most attorney generals will just bluff with a cease and desist order and then move on to someone else.

P) Don't be afraid of investors defecting, most of them will feel too stupid to go public with their story - even if some do start successful attacks on you, just say they are agents of the big conspiracy.

Q) Jealously guard your list of investors, a good sucker list is worth its weight in gold and can even be sold to other con men.

R)  Don't be afraid of the press, they don't usually evaluate outlandish claims, and even if they do - your audience won't likely listen.

S) Be open to 'red-lining' your investors (i.e.: tell them if they don't come up with just a little more money, they will lose it all)

T)  Be ready to move to another state with corrupt or weak DA's - if you are done 'harvesting' your initial area. (i.e.: New Jersey is known as an east coast haven for the mob, prostitution and home repair scams)  Most states don?t bother to track people down across state lines.

U)  If you are really bold, you could give commissions for investors to find more investors. Better to also make others responsible for building the machines - it buys you time and gives you another person to blame.

V) Explain complex subjects simply, (leaving out lots of details) so that the mark feels as though he understands the subject well enough to make informed decisions.

How to deal with skeptics and detractors:

There are a number of approaches to deal with self righteous people who like to point out your flaws of reason, lists of previous victims, etc. out on the internet:

    *  Label your detractors as CIA agents, or stupid or part of the great conspiracy.
    * say they are unqualified unless they are experts in your crazy theory.
    * try to restrict your message to newsletters and limited forums where the skeptical voice can be filtered out.
    * in a public forum deaden the audiences interest with tons of distracting counter "information".
    * try to delete their pages from the search engines, or bury their objections in enough distractions to make people avoid the debate
    * trying threatening your detractors with lawsuits - it will make some of them shut up
    * give up and only try to market to people too old or stupid to get on the internet.


Here's a good site for aditional reading:
http://www.watchingyou.com/woowoo.html

It's a called "How to be an internet woo- woo.

To be a proper woo-woo, you must follow these rules:

1.  Never look for the simplest, most obvious cause of something. Refrain from mentioning Occam's Razor (it's your nemesis).

2.  Always favor the conspiracy angle over the boring angle. Mundane explanations (like saying that Roswell  was a balloon) are for dullards and government drones. If you want to sleep with that curvaceous new-age chick, don't tell her you think astrology is bogus! (Non woo-woos may benefit from that advice temporarily).

3.  Don't accept mainstream science unless it's something you've believed in for years (like gravity).

4.  Try to answer as few direct questions as possible. Always obfuscate and try to sound learned. Mimic Richard Hoagland's style and you'll go far.

5.  Use "what if" scenarios to change the subject whenever possible. If you linger on one topic too long you may be asked to provide annoying things like "proof." Don't let that happen! Consult an evolutionist  if you need practice with subject-changing.

6.  If you're cornered and asked for proof of something, always tell the person that they "can't disprove" your claims. Many of them will just walk away shaking their heads, which of course means they agree with you. A side-to-side head shake could be the same as a vertical nod. Anything is possible, after all.

7.  Memorize all the sci-babble terms used in the Star Trek series and Tom Bearden's web site. They are very useful if you get cornered by a skeptic, and you need to come up with some sort of "scientific" explanation. e.g., Inertial Dampeners, Scalar EMP  Woodpecker grid.

8.     When all else fails, start asking hypothetical questions that have nothing to do with the actual debate. If your opponent chooses to ignore your pointless questions and remains on topic, repeat your meaningless question(s) over and over. This will make any Believers in the audience think that your opponent is evading the issue.

9.      Accuse your opponent of being a liar, or try some other tactic that will (hopefully) make him angry. If he responds in kind to your endless taunts, change the subject to his anger, and accuse him of name calling. If he accuses you of provoking him, then you have changed the subject of the debate. If he stays on topic, keep the heat up. The Believers in the audience will forgive the worst verbal attacks you use, but they will think even the mildest replies he makes to you are personal attacks that undermine his argument.

10.      Use the word quantum in a sentence, despite not knowing what it means. For a more impressive effect, use it with the name of your favorite superstition - "quantum dowsing" sure sounds mighty serious.

11.     Two more words: Paradigm shift.

12.     Always claim that the other guy is "closed-minded" and that you're as free-thinking as a newborn baby. Other woo-woos love the concept of "open-mindedness" and will take you into their inner circle without question. They have no tolerance for those "mean old nasty" types who demand evidence for everything.

13.     Drink heavily while posting.

14.     You must believe that the word "anomaly" means proof of paranormal activity.

15.    Use the word "anomaly" as often as possible.

and on and on.


Just remember, if it sounds too good to be true, It's probably B.S.


http://louminatti.blogspot.com/





Wow

argona369

It s funny that you can talk with such authority on science!
you MUST be an EXPERT!

Just one thing,

>Ludicrousnesses such as???..UFO's??"That which is not so".

Your going to have to convince an awful lot of people who have seen
craft up close. Including me!
I?ve seen about 10 ufo?s (small letters).
Some, quite up close.

We only have an inkling of what the universe is.
Here?s one example . Something that we know ?what it does? but,
What is an electric field? What IS it.

I must add though, scams do prevail.
And caution is definitely wise.


Quote from: Automan on September 26, 2007, 11:20:45 PM
Quote from: nightlife on September 25, 2007, 09:11:39 PM
We will not be able to get funding and if we did, it would still never make it to the market place. Some may even be killed as many others already have been.
I did a lot of research and I have found that big money will not allow anyone to jeopardize their big profits.


Sure you did. what did you "research", all the claims about the evil "men in black" that swoop down and steal the designs from scam artists like Newman?

All that so called "big money" crap about "them" preventing anyone from jeopardizing their big profits is B.S. as well.
Guess what? Global warming is a load of B.S. too.

Nobody can invent a perpetual motion machine because it simply violates the first and second and third laws of thermal dynamics. These laes are 1) you can't win. 2) You can't break even. 3)   If you play the game, you're sure to loose.  It's really that simple.

Ludicrousnesses such as free energy, alien abductions, cold fusion, UFO's, or perpetual motion are what is known as Pseudoscience, or in other terms "That which is not so".

There are three levels of pseudoscience:                               

    * Tain't likley, McGee. 
    * Boy, a whole flock of 'em flew over that time.
    * What are they on, and where do we get some of it?

A number of people have made a decent living ripping off (usually elderly) investors, promising they will get rich on free energy. Here are the most familliar trechnics they use. Note carefully how many of them you are  repeating.

A) Be very careful to have any investors forfeit their right to legal action any way possible. - this can be a last minute statement to sign, often you can hide silencing terms in a nondisclosure agreement.

B) Start with outrageous enough claims to filter the more skeptical people out as early as possible. But, be careful about making too many bogus scientific claims, or you may find self-righteous skeptics trying to debunk you - if this happens, tell your followers they (or any critics) are part of the conspiracy - maybe nitpick at fine points of their arguments, but don't ever respond to their main thrust.

C) Claim you are not in it for the money, just to save humanity. Say you have already been offered huge sums, but want to sell it to the little guy (i.e. the gullible guy). Try to market it to older mid-western Christian farmers - they've always bought in in the past. Build excitement for something wonderful.

D) Focus investors attention away from evaluating claims on technical grounds. The following distractions are recommended:

1. get them involved in political issues. Convince them you have some large secretive benefactor.
2. focus their attention on an elaborate multi-generational international conspiracy which has kept everyone pitching free energy to fail. Make your audience outraged against the conspiracy, yet empowered that they can finally overcome it by giving you money.
3. talk about your valiant battles with the patent office or some government bureaucracy (that always warms people up)
4. get into religion quick (religious people are already taught to have faith) -appear to have God on your side
5. get people to focus on your theory rather than measurable evidence.
6. claim it already has been proven so you need not offer any proof   Tell them you are done proving it and need big money to start mass production.
7. Write an autobiography (self-published, of course) where you can "control" the facts. When someone questions your shady past simply say, "Buy my book and learn the truth about what REALLY happened." Naive people won't question the "facts" because, after all, it's in a book.  If your book is long enough, you may mesmerize them.

E) You must focus on the big conspiracy. It's very important to make people believe in the big conspiracy - because that's your excuse for past failures, present lack of evidence, the critics, and future delays. Locking horns with bureaucrats or the scientific community can distract from your lack of evidence and get you great free press. Make people believe exciting claims of bad guys wanting to steal or bury your ideas. - then claim you will destroy your prototypes and records rather than let them fall into the hands of the bad guys.

F)  Be bold, sell books, consider taking out full page ad or get on the radio. People will feel that something this out in the open can not possibly be a fly by night Con. The most successful cons are ones lasting for a few years not the quick cons.

G) Watch your target market, Go after people predisposed to believing in conspiracy theories such as the militias, JFK conspiracy, and UFO cover-up groups.

H) If you are forced to demonstrate some device, consider the following important tips: bore the skeptics right out of the room with long discourses on elementary science; claim you have some adjustments to make, yet; say "it worked yesterday"; run your machine for just a few seconds and move on to some other important point. - or do the Newman trick of openly hooking up input power and just promising it's less than what comes out.

i)  A good final lesson, if the heat from impatient investors and public scrutiny gets too much, do what Keely did - just walk away from it all (just claim it doesn't work because the remaining people don't understand it) , and just start some new investment scheme for some other amazing claim.

J) operate from a state which is soft on fraud and organized crime.

K) Get people to pay around 20 - 100$ for "information kits" or video tapes.  Once they've paid that much, it's easier to get them to start paying more money.

L) Discourage investors from contacting each other and cover up evidence of earlier bitter investors.

M) Get followers to sell your stuff to their friends, family and churches - try multilevel schemes - promise they will get rich by commissions on getting others to invest (who cares if this destroys their friendships).

N)  Be open to having newer investors buy out older more impatient investors.  Always promise a disgruntled investor that someone else will soon buy him out.

O)  Don't be afraid of lawsuits, if OJ got off so can you - they can be one more excuse for delays. Most attorney generals will just bluff with a cease and desist order and then move on to someone else.

P) Don't be afraid of investors defecting, most of them will feel too stupid to go public with their story - even if some do start successful attacks on you, just say they are agents of the big conspiracy.

Q) Jealously guard your list of investors, a good sucker list is worth its weight in gold and can even be sold to other con men.

R)  Don't be afraid of the press, they don't usually evaluate outlandish claims, and even if they do - your audience won't likely listen.

S) Be open to 'red-lining' your investors (i.e.: tell them if they don't come up with just a little more money, they will lose it all)

T)  Be ready to move to another state with corrupt or weak DA's - if you are done 'harvesting' your initial area. (i.e.: New Jersey is known as an east coast haven for the mob, prostitution and home repair scams)  Most states don?t bother to track people down across state lines.

U)  If you are really bold, you could give commissions for investors to find more investors. Better to also make others responsible for building the machines - it buys you time and gives you another person to blame.

V) Explain complex subjects simply, (leaving out lots of details) so that the mark feels as though he understands the subject well enough to make informed decisions.

How to deal with skeptics and detractors:

There are a number of approaches to deal with self righteous people who like to point out your flaws of reason, lists of previous victims, etc. out on the internet:

    *  Label your detractors as CIA agents, or stupid or part of the great conspiracy.
    * say they are unqualified unless they are experts in your crazy theory.
    * try to restrict your message to newsletters and limited forums where the skeptical voice can be filtered out.
    * in a public forum deaden the audiences interest with tons of distracting counter "information".
    * try to delete their pages from the search engines, or bury their objections in enough distractions to make people avoid the debate
    * trying threatening your detractors with lawsuits - it will make some of them shut up
    * give up and only try to market to people too old or stupid to get on the internet.


Here's a good site for aditional reading:
http://www.watchingyou.com/woowoo.html

It's a called "How to be an internet woo- woo.

To be a proper woo-woo, you must follow these rules:

1.  Never look for the simplest, most obvious cause of something. Refrain from mentioning Occam's Razor (it's your nemesis).

2.  Always favor the conspiracy angle over the boring angle. Mundane explanations (like saying that Roswell  was a balloon) are for dullards and government drones. If you want to sleep with that curvaceous new-age chick, don't tell her you think astrology is bogus! (Non woo-woos may benefit from that advice temporarily).

3.  Don't accept mainstream science unless it's something you've believed in for years (like gravity).

4.  Try to answer as few direct questions as possible. Always obfuscate and try to sound learned. Mimic Richard Hoagland's style and you'll go far.

5.  Use "what if" scenarios to change the subject whenever possible. If you linger on one topic too long you may be asked to provide annoying things like "proof." Don't let that happen! Consult an evolutionist  if you need practice with subject-changing.

6.  If you're cornered and asked for proof of something, always tell the person that they "can't disprove" your claims. Many of them will just walk away shaking their heads, which of course means they agree with you. A side-to-side head shake could be the same as a vertical nod. Anything is possible, after all.

7.  Memorize all the sci-babble terms used in the Star Trek series and Tom Bearden's web site. They are very useful if you get cornered by a skeptic, and you need to come up with some sort of "scientific" explanation. e.g., Inertial Dampeners, Scalar EMP  Woodpecker grid.

8.     When all else fails, start asking hypothetical questions that have nothing to do with the actual debate. If your opponent chooses to ignore your pointless questions and remains on topic, repeat your meaningless question(s) over and over. This will make any Believers in the audience think that your opponent is evading the issue.

9.      Accuse your opponent of being a liar, or try some other tactic that will (hopefully) make him angry. If he responds in kind to your endless taunts, change the subject to his anger, and accuse him of name calling. If he accuses you of provoking him, then you have changed the subject of the debate. If he stays on topic, keep the heat up. The Believers in the audience will forgive the worst verbal attacks you use, but they will think even the mildest replies he makes to you are personal attacks that undermine his argument.

10.      Use the word quantum in a sentence, despite not knowing what it means. For a more impressive effect, use it with the name of your favorite superstition - "quantum dowsing" sure sounds mighty serious.

11.     Two more words: Paradigm shift.

12.     Always claim that the other guy is "closed-minded" and that you're as free-thinking as a newborn baby. Other woo-woos love the concept of "open-mindedness" and will take you into their inner circle without question. They have no tolerance for those "mean old nasty" types who demand evidence for everything.

13.     Drink heavily while posting.

14.     You must believe that the word "anomaly" means proof of paranormal activity.

15.    Use the word "anomaly" as often as possible.

and on and on.


Just remember, if it sounds too good to be true, It's probably B.S.


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